Copland birth date

[josey]

Have you found a baptism? Do you know what year his parents married? What age does he give on a marriage certificate?

[iwccc]

Hi Carolineasb, Thanks for your suggestions.  I still think the date should be 1914 - it's just how to prove it  - that is my problem.

[josey]

Ah, I see from SP free index that James & Margaret married in 1914 - actually the date should be on William's birth certificate.

[isobelw]

Govanhill is not in the same area as Govan. Also the reg number for the 1914 birth ( i.e. 2105) suggests a birth registered late in the year.
Isobel

[iwccc]

Hi Josey,  No I haven't found a baptism.  I suspect if baptised it would have been in the Free Kirk.
The parents were married 18th August, 1914.  I haven't been able to find a marriage certificate yet but I know he was married on 29th October, 1939.
So, yes I know that they married in August, 1914.....at present I guessing that the son William was born 14th December, 1914 - 4 months later.  It may be that a family member has changed the date on the birth extract - maybe to make it look like he was born a legitimate or maybe to make him look younger to avoid war or whatever!?!?!?

[iwccc]

Hi isobelw,  Thanks for the information.  Just to get this straight - are you agreeing that the SP birth for William. Copland b. 1914  (born 14th December - later in the year) Govan is my man?
His home address was Elder Park Street, Govan, Glasgow.
I hadn't connected before that Govanhill and Govan were not the same area.  thanks for that.

[buckhyne]

According to SP there were only two births in Glasgow Govan in 1910-19

COPLAND   WILLIAM   M   1914   644/21 2105   Govan   
COPLAND   WILLIAM   M   1918   644/16 617   Govanhill

I got them from the free index in ScotlandsPeople.
The obvious thing to do is to pay for the certificates to see who the parents were.

[carolineasb]

There are several trees on A*try all showing the dob as 14/12/1914 in Govan

[isobelw]

To be sure,  you really need to view the certificate at Scotlandspeople ( you can view 5 certificates for £7.00, so not expensive).
However there is no William Copland birth recorded in the indices for 1919 for Govan, which might suggest the certificate you have has been doctored.