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William Daniels deported October 1933
« on: Friday 01 September 17 12:15 BST (UK) »
Hi Folks
Iím helping my cousin with his research into his Daniels Family, his Father William Daniels born in London about 1905 went to Australia in 1923 destination port Melbourne, he was deported in 1933 according to the Australian National Archives, -  "deportee ex goal Sydney" Ė departure per Ballarat in October 1933.

Can anyone help me as to where I can find the information as to what he did and why he  was deported please.

I am not familiar with researching Australian records

Many thanks
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Re: William Daniels deported October 1933
« Reply #1 on: Friday 01 September 17 12:48 BST (UK) »
From NSW state archives , can search for gaol photographs and convictions in these indexes, for those convicted in NSW.
https://www.records.nsw.gov.au/archives/collections-and-research/guides-and-indexes/indexes-a-z

I'm not seeing a William DANIELS ... but it is late here

I'll search the newspapers.

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Re: William Daniels deported October 1933
« Reply #2 on: Friday 01 September 17 13:04 BST (UK) »
This looks likely.

A William DANIELS aged 26, labourer pleaded guilty in 1932 to having been found at night with intent to commit a felony.
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article16938707

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Re: William Daniels deported October 1933
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Re: William Daniels deported October 1933
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 02 September 17 04:05 BST (UK) »
 
Richard TARRANT, the accomplice of William DANIELS in 1932, had a long record of entering and theft and other criminal activity from Sydney to Cairns over the years.

He seemed able to contrive extraordinary excuses for his conduct on the occasion of his multiple arrests ::) :P
 
"Drinking to ease the pain". 1934 in Brisbane
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/183829751

Ran out of time to finish the job. 1927
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/190190112

Lost his money at the races. 1927
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/121698294

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Re: William Daniels deported October 1933
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 02 September 17 11:55 BST (UK) »
Thanks everyone

I will have a look at the sites you recommend

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Re: William Daniels deported October 1933
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 03 September 17 00:12 BST (UK) »
Arrival record-

William DANIELS
Born1905
Aged   18
Occ. Piano Furnisher
Last address 26 Ashcroft Road, Grove Road , Bow E.3
Departure Date:24 May 1923
Port of Departure London, England
Destination  Melbourne, Australia
Ship Ballarat

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William DANIELS
Born about 1905
Aged 28
Occ. Labourer
Intended address- 7 Crowhurst Rd. Angel Rd. Brixton
Departed Sydney, Australia
Arrival Date 4 Dec 1933
Port of Arrival London, England
Ship Ballarat

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Re: William Daniels deported October 1933
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 03 September 17 00:59 BST (UK) »
He was likely deported because he now had a criminal record.

These days, any non-citizen gaoled for one year or more is automatically deported when released from gaol, in Oz (whatever the crime).

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Re: William Daniels deported October 1933
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 03 September 17 09:45 BST (UK) »
Thanks Sue you have confirmed what I have found regarding his departure and arrival in England, Thanks Dawn interesting about deportment if anyone has a criminal record, my concern at the moment is I need confirmation that the William Daniels who went to prison is the same man as my Cousin's father, are there any records for men sent to prison, i.e what prison they were sent to also any personal details so I can confirm this is one and the same person.

My cousin has been chatting to his brother who believes that their father joined the Communist Party while in Australia, and that he was deported because of this connection, are there any records about  members of this Party and could he have gone to prison for maybe causing trouble.

Many thanks
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KENT Clackett, Swaffer, Houghton, Jezzard, Epps, Smith
ESSEX Hoy, Bentley, Smith, 
HERTFORDSHIRE, BEDFORDSHIRE Hare, Holland,  Crouch
SUSSEX  Jones, Smith,
DEPTFORD   Phillips, Francis
MIDDLESEX - TOTTENHAM Smith, Bentley, Hoy, Phillips, Mead, Cooke