Sutherland

[Taylor111]

Hello, after a bit of help if anyone can please.

My great uncle was apparently Andrew Sutherland born around 1910–Paisley, Renfrewshire, Scotland.
His mother was Janet Gilmour Crawford(1870–1958)
His father William Sutherland born 1882 (I think, not sure on death)
They were married 29 Jul 1904  Paisley, Renfrewshire, Scotland
Janet had 6 children fro her first marriage to Mr Patterson.

She then had my grandmother Williamina Born 1906. James 1905 (no idea what happened to him either) And then Andrew born 1910.
I have the 1911 census which i paid for for and all children are on it.

I was told Andrew moved to Canada, but I can't find anything. And James is a mystery too.
I have found half the pattersons, half moving to America also.

But it is Andrew and James I am really trying to find anything on. I know my grandmother went to visit him often as there are a lot of shipping records for her going back and forth to Canada.

I am wondering if I maybe have James and Andrews birth years wrong? And I have them being born  Renfrewshire, Scotland.

Any help or advice welcomed. Thanks    

[DonM]

SUTHERLAND ANDREW CRAWFORD Born 1909 Paisley you can download his original birth reg from Scotlands People.

SUTHERLAND JAMES Born 1904 Paisley you can download his original birth reg from Scotlands People.

The 1911 Census has a many children from both marriages you might want to get a copy of that as well.

James married Annie Dickson Graham on the 16 March 1928 in Dumbarton he died there in 1993.  You can acquire a copy of his marriage and death from Scotlands People.

If Andrew stayed in Canada you should make a post for Andrew on the Canada Forum. 

Don

[AMBLY]

Hi Taylor111,

DonM pipped me to the post    The middle name for Andrew is potentially very helpful.

I know my grandmother went to visit him often as there are a lot of shipping records for her going back and forth to Canada. 

Under what name did Williamina  travel to and from Canada - maiden, married? Can you provide some details of the instances you have her travelling - dates etc.

Cheers
AMBLY

[Rosinish]

The 1911 Census has a many children from both marriages you might want to get a copy of that as well.

DonM,

The poster has that info. 

I have the 1911 census which i paid for for and all children are on it.

Annie

[Taylor111]

Thank you guys. Yes I do have the 1911 census. Yes she travelled as Williamina Sutherland, which is strange as she married my grandfather. Rumour was as well that Andrew married a native Indian woman.
Thanks for the help with dates, I just try my best to work them out via Census records.   

[Taylor111]

I have downloaded his birth record, thank you for that. I can't quite make out the date its oct and twenty something ? Can I send to anyone who might have better eyes than me please. Thanks

[AMBLY]

Yes she travelled as Williamina Sutherland, which is strange as she married my grandfather.

Do you have some dates?  There may be clues on the manifest (in and out of the UK and Canada)  as to where in Canada she was headed.

I do see a couple  Williamina SUTHERLAND of around right age travelling to and from Canada, however one of them was a  Williamina Greig SUTHERLAND (associated with Glasgow, and was a Stenographer) - the other was a Williamina Gunn SUTHERLAND (associated with Wick, Caithness).

Could you tell us her married name? Scottish women did often retain or interchange in  use of their maiden names, also often reverting to it when widowed.

Cheers
AMBLY

[Taylor111]

I have looked for James to download his birth record, but nothing at all is coming up. I even put from 1903-1905 and nothing. 

[Taylor111]

She married William Low. I have everything on her, birth, death, addresses, siblings, children ext. It is her brothers I am struggling with. Andrew and James. But Andrew I a trying to crack.