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Where & when did Caroline Jude (m/s Nisbet) marry Mr Henderson?
« on: Saturday 02 September 17 20:17 BST (UK) »
This is a complete mystery...

I'm looking for a marriage between Caroline Jude (m/s Nisbet) & a Mr Henderson between 1860 (when her husband Martin Jude died in Tynemouth) & 1876 when their son Martin William Jude married Dorothy Clark in St. Rollox, Glasgow, Scotland naming his mother as Caroline Henderson, previously Jude, M.S. Nisbet.

This is the nearest I could find with both surnames & wonder how I can find out if this is an error as there doesn't seem to be a way of checking the GRO index  ???  :-\

FreeBMD - Marriages Jun 1875 Gateshead (List of couples Jun 1875)
Volume: 10a Page: 1095
Henderson    Mattheq   
HENDERSON Matthew   
JUDE Martin (Name of Caroline's husband???       
KIRSOP Mary       
Nixon Jessie       
PRUDHOE Elizabeth   

I couldn't find a marriage on SP...

However, I have the death cert. for Caroline JUDE registered by the Matron of North Poorhouse, Leith, Edinburgh giving both parents names & her mother's m/s, no mention of Mr Henderson  ???

Annie

Add...I forgot to say, they may never have married, maybe lived together & son Martin assumed them to have been married as he was only 8 yrs old when his father died  :-\


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Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

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Re: Where & when did Caroline Jude (m/s Nisbet) marry Mr Henderson?
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 02 September 17 23:53 BST (UK) »
The 1881 has a Martin Jude b 1852 with wife Elizabeth living in Winlaton Durham - Gateshead RD
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Carlin (Ireland & Liverpool) Doughty & Wright (Liverpool) Dick & Park (Scotland & Liverpool)

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Re: Where & when did Caroline Jude (m/s Nisbet) marry Mr Henderson?
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 03 September 17 00:07 BST (UK) »
Thanks Carole...however not mine  ;)

My Martin (the son of Caroline) b 1852 married Dorothy Clark in 1876 & were still having children after 1881 where they were in St. Andrew, N/Castle-upon-Tyne.

It's this 2nd marriage for Caroline that has me flummoxed  :-\

Her hubby Martin Jude died 1860 & 2nd 'supposed' husband not mentioned on her DC.

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

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Re: Where & when did Caroline Jude (m/s Nisbet) marry Mr Henderson?
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 03 September 17 00:09 BST (UK) »
The 1881 has a Martin Jude b 1852 with wife Elizabeth living in Winlaton Durham - Gateshead RD

There is a child born to this couple as well, so doesn't look as if there is a mistake with the name.

JUDE, MARY  ANN     mmn PRUDHOE 
S Quarter 1880
Gateshead   
Volume 10A  Page 877
 
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Re: Where & when did Caroline Jude (m/s Nisbet) marry Mr Henderson?
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 03 September 17 00:25 BST (UK) »
Thanks Groom,

I think they possibly only lived together but I can't find them in 1871  ::)

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

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Re: Where & when did Caroline Jude (m/s Nisbet) marry Mr Henderson?
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 03 September 17 00:45 BST (UK) »
Hi Annie

The 1881 details were to indicate that the 1875 marriage was not an error

Can you give us Caroline's details - birthyear/place - as son Martin is with relatives in 1861
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Re: Where & when did Caroline Jude (m/s Nisbet) marry Mr Henderson?
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 03 September 17 00:56 BST (UK) »
Not a marriage and not 1871, but this 1861 Census entry in Glasgow might be them:  Wm Henderson b abt 1825 Paisley, Renfrew and Caroline Jude b abt 1825 England, at 3 N Albion St Glasgow St David, occupation of both Register House Keeper I think - can't check the original.  If it is, then maybe they were in Glasgow in 1871 too?

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Re: Where & when did Caroline Jude (m/s Nisbet) marry Mr Henderson?
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 03 September 17 01:11 BST (UK) »
Sorry Carole,

Thought you were giving me a possible for son Martin  ;)

Caroline b c1830 England, haven't found her on any census' to find out where exactly she was born.

I have son Martin at Old Highlander, Liddle St, N. Shields in 1861


Drosybont,

Thanks, I will look at the Scottish entry but Carolines' occ. on her death was Sick Nurse.

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"

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Re: Where & when did Caroline Jude (m/s Nisbet) marry Mr Henderson?
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 03 September 17 01:15 BST (UK) »
Drosybont,

Which site did you find them on before I go to SP as I have exactly 12 credits left  ;D

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"