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Missing in 1891 West Derby.
« on: Wednesday 06 September 17 18:12 BST (UK) »
Mary Ann Litherland was buried December 1892 in West Derby cemetery. She was 72 and her address was  1 Fielding St , West Derby, She was born in Liverpool.
The last time I find her is with her daughter Adeline in 1881. I`m pretty sure it`s her. Her age is  consistent.

1881 Codrington Street, West Derby.
William Daulby 47 labourer b Liverpool
Adeline Daulby 43 b Whitchurch, Salop.
John Smith stepson 15 labourer b Liverpool
Adeline Smith step daughter 12 scholar b Liverpool
Maria Smith stepdaughter 6 b Liverpool
Mary Ann Lowe mother in law widow 65 nurse b Liverpool (should be Litherland)
Julian Litherland visitor 32 wireworker  b Liverpool 

By 1891 Adeline`s surname is Taylor.  I cannot find either Adeline or Mary Ann in 1891.
Can fresh eyes find them.

I`ve attached the burial record with the name of the minister, but I`m not sure who he is - Rev , H Leworthy ? I thought it may help.
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Re: Missing in 1891 West Derby.
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 06 September 17 18:22 BST (UK) »
1 Fielding Street was the home of Julia Litherland (wid, 49, Lincolnshire) and family in 1891
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Re: Missing in 1891 West Derby.
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 06 September 17 18:35 BST (UK) »
Thanks, Julia in 1881 is with her husband Richard O.( Orlando)  Litherland   aged 43 .
He is Mary Ann`s son.

Where is Mary Ann  ???
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Re: Missing in 1891 West Derby.
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 07 September 17 11:43 BST (UK) »
so she was 65 in 1881 census and 72 in 1892 when she died - Mary Ann Lowe which you think is Mary Ann Litherland would have been 76 ...are you sure that Mary Ann Lowe is your Mary Ann Litherland ?..women took a couple of years off their age - they didn't add it on ?? :)
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is Mary Ann Litherland aged 55 in 1871 census as an employee in Everton for Joshua Brumby - says b 1816 ??
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Re: Missing in 1891 West Derby.
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 07 September 17 11:58 BST (UK) »
Could Mary Ann have been in workhouse or similar in 1891  :-\

Which Adeline Taylor is missing in 1891 - Smith or Daulby from 1881?
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Re: Missing in 1891 West Derby.
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 07 September 17 12:06 BST (UK) »
Could Mary Ann have been in workhouse or similar in 1891  :-\

Which Adeline Taylor is missing in 1891 - Smith or Daulby from 1881?

first thing I thought of - The Workhouse  :)
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Re: Missing in 1891 West Derby.
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 07 September 17 12:15 BST (UK) »
Or in hospital? Check for an "initials only" entry  ?
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Re: Missing in 1891 West Derby.
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 07 September 17 13:46 BST (UK) »
Could Mary Ann have been in workhouse or similar in 1891  :-\

Which Adeline Taylor is missing in 1891 - Smith or Daulby from 1881?

Both.
Taylor and Smith,  mother and daughter.
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Re: Missing in 1891 West Derby.
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 07 September 17 14:10 BST (UK) »
so she was 65 in 1881 census and 72 in 1892 when she died - Mary Ann Lowe which you think is Mary Ann Litherland would have been 76 ...are you sure that Mary Ann Lowe is your Mary Ann Litherland ?..women took a couple of years off their age - they didn't add it on ?? :)
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is Mary Ann Litherland aged 55 in 1871 census as an employee in Everton for Joshua Brumby - says b 1816 ??
Mary Ann Ashley Baptism Date: 5 Mar 1815 Liverpool,
1835 Richard Litherland married Mary Ann Ashley.

 She is quite consistent with her age
1841 West Derby.
Richard Litherland  35 clockmaker Y
Mary Litherland  25 Y

1851, Islington, Liverpool
Richard Litherland  44 clockmaker b Liverpool
Mary Ann Litherland  35 b Liverpool

1861 Everton. 4 sons are with her.
Mary Ann Litherland  widow 44 charwoman b Liverpool.

1881 West Derby.
William Daulby 47 labourer b Liverpool
Adeline Daulby 43 b Whitchurch, Salop.
Mary Ann Lowe mother in law widow 65 nurse b Liverpool (should be Litherland)
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