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Offline Sinann

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Re: Mistakes on marriage certificate? Or lies?
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 06 September 17 23:35 BST (UK) »
Is this from the same certificate ?
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=778468.msg6323944#msg6323944
Comparing the two zeros I wonder if the curved line in zero on his age means it should be read as an 8.
I don't know if they still wrote 8 like that in 1855 but I'm sure someone here will know.

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Re: Mistakes on marriage certificate? Or lies?
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 06 September 17 23:48 BST (UK) »
Sinnan...

I think you could be right...

Very observant!!

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Re: Mistakes on marriage certificate? Or lies?
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 07 September 17 00:15 BST (UK) »
Yes, could well be as the 0 or 8 in 30 looks similar to the number in 1855.
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Re: Mistakes on marriage certificate? Or lies?
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 07 September 17 09:05 BST (UK) »
That looks conceivable! Great work Sinann


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Re: Mistakes on marriage certificate? Or lies?
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 07 September 17 11:33 BST (UK) »
Your welcome Chris.
I hadn't noticed the 8 of 1855.
I almost didn't post as I wasn't sure, glad I did now.

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Re: Mistakes on marriage certificate? Or lies?
« Reply #14 on: Monday 11 September 17 15:21 BST (UK) »
Groom says he is 30 but I have him born in 1815

Also he is called Robert at the top of the certificate but Ralph at the bottom???



Hi

That age says 38 years in the top row of your Marriage Certificate scan.

I see a lot of this in old documents for an 8, sometimes made worse when scanned.

Regards Mark

Edit: I see others have noticed too.

The writer in the handwritten year date "1855" has formed the 8 in the same way, although very slightly more pronounced as an 8.

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Re: Mistakes on marriage certificate? Or lies?
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 24 September 17 16:34 BST (UK) »
Also bear in mind if the certificate is issued by the GRO then the signatures won't be those of the couple, they will be transcribed versions created by the clerk creating the register at the time. The original documents lie with the local archives not with the GRO.

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Re: Mistakes on marriage certificate? Or lies?
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 24 September 17 17:00 BST (UK) »
Also bear in mind if the certificate is issued by the GRO then the signatures won't be those of the couple, they will be transcribed versions created by the clerk creating the register at the time. The original documents lie with the local archives not with the GRO.

The image looks to be from the parish register, the signatures are different, and different again  to the writing of the details.   


The age certainly looks like 38 and not 30.
CHOULES All ,  COKER Harwich Essex & Rochester Kent 
COLE Gt. Oakley, & Lt. Oakley, Essex.
DUNCAN Kent
EVERITT Colchester,  Dovercourt & Harwich Essex
GULLIVER/GULLOFER Fifehead Magdalen Dorset
HORSCROFT Kent.
KING Sturminster Newton, Dorset. MONK Odiham Ham.
SCOTT Wrabness, Essex
WILKINS Stour Provost, Dorset.
WICKHAM All in North Essex.
WICKHAM Medway Towns, Kent from 1880
WICKHAM, Ipswich, Suffolk.

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Re: Mistakes on marriage certificate? Or lies?
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 24 September 17 17:07 BST (UK) »
My husband's g.grandmother stated she was 18 when she married in 1867 when, in fact she was only 15.  Her husband stated he was 22 which was correct. I don't know where her father was I can't trace him after 1857 in a Trade Directory, but her mother was still alive, she didn't die until the following year.  As she got married at Manchester Cathedral, maybe she married without her mother knowing.  In any case the marriage lasted for 35 years before she died of cancer of the uterus, her age was correct on her death certificate, so obviously her husband knew her real age.