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William Mackey / Sarah Hednety
« on: Thursday 07 September 17 10:00 BST (UK) »
Hello

I am trying to trace the Irish section of my husband's family tree but only have the information from a birth certificate, death certificate and a marriage certificate in Australia and what other relatives have found out.

The story so far:  James (born abt. 1860) and David (born abt. 1862) in Dundrum, Tipperary Ireland, came to Australia on the "Waroonga" on 5th June 1883 - arriving Brisbane, Queensland.

Their parents were William Mackey and Sarah Hednety.

Here's where it gets a bit strange and nobody here knows why - James married Selina Harriet Edwards in 1884 in Brisbane, Queensland, Australia (according to official marriage certificate), but a son of Selina born in 1888 was named David and the father's name on that birth certificate was David Mackey (born abt. 1862).

I have a death certificate for James Mackey but he didn't die until 1943 in Queensland, Australia.

Selina Mackey remarried in 1912 to Francis Czerney but had several children to him prior to marriage between 1891 and 1906.

Anyway, I was hoping someone might be able to point me in the right direction to find the Irish ancestors of James and David. 

Not sure if the spelling is correct, also cannot find what county I should be looking in as the info here states Dundrum, Tipperary, Ireland.

I have looked over a few church records in that area, but have had no luck so far.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks  :)
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Re: William Mackey / Sarah Hednety
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 07 September 17 11:49 BST (UK) »
https://www.johngrenham.com/c_parish/c_parish_main.php?civilparishid=2133&county=&civilparish=Ballintemple

http://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0273

https://www.johngrenham.com/places/civil_in_rc.php?churchid=0273&county=&church_name=Knockavilla



Thank you for that information.  I have had a good look through the parish records and found something that may help, but not too sure.

I found a baptism for a James Mackey on 9th January 1859 which could be a correct date - the only clue to his age I have is that on his marriage certificate it states he was 24years old on 7/1/1884.

The parents are William Mackey and (a bit hard to read the mother's name but it looks like Sarah Hasnett or Harnett.  Not the Hednety I was expecting so not sure.

Any suggestions on the next step to confirm this is the James and parents I am looking for, and how to find out more about the marriage of the parents - where and when?

I could find no more brothers, sisters, marriages in those names in the parish records, or cemetary records at all, so assuming they moved on or were only passing through that area (if this is the James Mackey I am looking for).  That now makes things a bit harder.


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Re: William Mackey / Sarah Hednety
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 07 September 17 12:25 BST (UK) »

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Re: William Mackey / Sarah Hednety
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 07 September 17 12:28 BST (UK) »
You have a birth, marriage and death certificate. Can you please list all the information on each certificate.

 At Toowong Cemetery   same plot
MACKEY James                  buried 20 Dec 1943 87yrs
MACKEY Winifred  O'Neil     buried 24 Mar 1889 

BDM QLD death
1889 / C3918 MACKEY Winifred  parents O'NEIL Michael / DADY Mary

1943 / B64480 MACKEY James parents William MACKEY /  Sarah

Who is Winifred?

Where you see the name HEDNETY ...are you looking at a handwritten image, or a transcription?

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Re: William Mackey / Sarah Hednety
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 07 September 17 13:08 BST (UK) »
You have a birth, marriage and death certificate. Can you please list all the information on each certificate.

 At Toowong Cemetery   same plot
MACKEY James                  buried 20 Dec 1943 87yrs
MACKEY Winifred  O'Neil     buried 24 Mar 1889 

BDM QLD death
1889 / C3918 MACKEY Winifred  parents O'NEIL Michael / DADY Mary

1943 / B64480 MACKEY James parents William MACKEY /  Sarah

Who is Winifred?

Where you see the name HEDNETY ...are you looking at a handwritten image, or a transcription?

Hi Wivenhoe,

The James Mackey at Toowong cemetery is the James Mackey we thought was in our family line, as the parents names are correct, but the age just doesn't match up. 

I don't know who Winifred is, perhaps a second wife as Selina (his first wife) appears to have remarried and had children to another partner.

I have attached the certificates I have. Another member of our family had previously done this research and this was the best that they could get for the Australian side. 

That is why I am trying to start at the other end and trace the ancestors from Ireland for some other clues.

I can't seem to find any David Mackey (brother of James) and am currently thinking that perhaps James went by the name of David?


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Re: William Mackey / Sarah Hednety
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 07 September 17 13:45 BST (UK) »
A Sarah Mackey age 70 a widow died 1910 from Dundrum
172 here
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1910/05411/4511958.pdf

she is not obvious on 1901 census
however i noted on the 1859 birth posted earlier that Sarah was a protestant and maybe the later children were baptised protestants
in 1901 a Joseph Mackey C O I is living in Dundrum
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tipperary/Kilpatrick/Dundrum/1706031/
In 1911 he is with Hadnett's
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Tipperary/Kilpatrick/Gortard/815540/

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Re: William Mackey / Sarah Hednety
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 07 September 17 14:04 BST (UK) »

QLD BDM marriage
1885 B9702 James MACKEY  m.  Winifred O'NEILL

QLD BDM births
1886 C7950 James MACKEY    parents  James / Winifred O'NEILL
1888 C8821 Michael MACKEY  parents  James / Winifred O'NEILL 

QLD BDM births
1885 C6608 MACKAY Selina  parents  David / Selina Harriet EDWARDS
1886 C4254 MACKAY Ellen   parents MACKAY David / Selina Harriet EDWARDS 
1890 B45932 MACKAY Lily   parents MACKAY /  Selina MACKAY   (father Czerney?)

What are the details on the death certificate, James MACKEY, 1943?

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Re: William Mackey / Sarah Hednety
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 07 September 17 14:25 BST (UK) »
Birth certificate, 5 Mar 1888, David MACKAY, born Churchill, Ipswich.

Brisbane Courier 29 Dec 1887   p6
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/3486650?
........David MACKAY of Churchill....committed to asylum......

Your David MACKEY, who married Selina?

BDM QLD death
1938 B41090 David MACKAY parents  -  - ** born Ireland aged 76 years