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John Roberts - St Austell 1700s
« on: Thursday 07 September 17 20:20 BST (UK) »
Dear Listers
I'm trying to find out more about a relative of mine - John Roberts who lived in St Austell in the 1700s
I believe that the attached document is his will but have been unable to trace anything about the stamping mill mentioned in the will (Billbeary Mill)
Any ideas/pointers would be appreciated
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Re: John Roberts - St Austell 1700s
« Reply #1 on: Friday 08 September 17 10:20 BST (UK) »
Also...with help from the OPC in St Austell previously we identified that John Roberts married Elizabeth Burlace @ St Austell 18.11.1713. Not sure when Elizabeth or John died but the attached will could be her or another family relative? Any thoughts?
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Re: John Roberts - St Austell 1700s
« Reply #2 on: Friday 08 September 17 10:37 BST (UK) »
burial for John 22 May 1749

http://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/search-database/more-info/?t=burials&id=1222012

More than one possible burial for Elizabeth Roberts, not the one in December 1761 as she was wife of Matthew, but there are others in 1767 & 1774.

Elizabeth Burlace, widow, buried 8 Jan 1750. She would appear to be the widow of Jacob Burlace, marriage 29 March 1708 of Jacob Burlace & Elizabeth Tregonning, baptisms on opc database to match children mentioned in will, Clarey being the last in 1733.
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: John Roberts - St Austell 1700s
« Reply #3 on: Friday 08 September 17 10:46 BST (UK) »
using the catalogue search for the record office, I cam across Cloberries stamping mill, St Austell moor. Is that a possible if written in old script?

http://crocat.cornwall.gov.uk/DServe/searchpage.htm

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Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: John Roberts - St Austell 1700s
« Reply #4 on: Friday 08 September 17 12:28 BST (UK) »
thank you Osprey for your help
Is there a directory of stamping mills in Cornwall records office do you know?
I understand that Billbeary (or however this was spelt) Mill was a stream tin mine but wondered if any of the OPC's or Cornish Tin Mines Associations might be worth contacting to try and find out more?
I think my father & I found that John Roberts lived in Charlestown which I think is close to St Austell but wasn't sure if the Conrwall Record office might have old maps or papers regarding the mills in existence in the 1700? I found some helpful online material but  have so far drawn a blank - other than the wills which appear to be regarding John as it mentioned Matthew (son) and grandson (John) which ties into my family tree so far - again with help with the local OPC. Drobbo

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Re: John Roberts - St Austell 1700s
« Reply #5 on: Friday 08 September 17 14:56 BST (UK) »
there's a guide to what the CRO has about mining

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01koq/ 

There is a receipt for rent for stamping mills at Billburry ref T/970a dated 17 July 1722 from the papers of the Tremayne family of Heligan, St Ewe. You can get a copy from the CRO
https://www.cornwall.gov.uk/community-and-living/records-archives-and-cornish-studies/enquiry-and-copy-services/

The Cornish Studies Library in Redruth may be worth contacting as well for mining history.
https://www.cornwall.gov.uk/community-and-living/records-archives-and-cornish-studies/cornish-studies-library/

Bilberry is in the parish of Roche.

https://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/getoutside/local/bilberry-cornwall
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: John Roberts - St Austell 1700s
« Reply #6 on: Friday 08 September 17 15:39 BST (UK) »
thanks again for your help osprey