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PR Entry help, please
« on: Friday 08 September 17 13:06 BST (UK) »
Can anyone help decipher the groom's abode and father's name, please, on this marriage entry for Merthyr Tydfil in 1852?

Thanks

David
Anderson - Leics., Yorks.; Attwood - Worcs., Staffs.,  Salop; Baylis - Worcs.; Beach/Bache - Worcs., Staffs., Salop; Bills - Devon, Worcs.
Dovey - Worcs., Staff., Salop; Gill - Worcs.; Hampton - Worcs., Staffs.; Hancox/Hancocks - Worcs., Staffs.
Hill - Worcs., Staffs., Salop; Sherwood - Worcs., Staffs.; Stonyer - Worcs., Staff., Salop, Essex
Woodall - Worcs., Staffs.; Potter - Essex.

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Re: PR Entry help, please
« Reply #1 on: Friday 08 September 17 13:14 BST (UK) »
Looks like Florence Frederick, with John in census 1841


Added for info 1841 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7W3-SFP

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Gibbons, Mordecai/Mort, Squire, Thomas, David/Davies, Joseph, Bowen, Lewis, Rees, Williams, Jones, Llewellyn, Morgan - Glam
Gibbons, Timbrell, Beale, Ludlow - Glos/Wilts
Davies, Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd, Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Shoemac, Squire, Keirle, Small - Somerset
Berry, Baggot, Lee, Clayton - Lancs
Baggot, Hurley, Keaveny, Shiel, Flynn - Ireland
Bray - Cornwall

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Re: PR Entry help, please
« Reply #2 on: Friday 08 September 17 13:20 BST (UK) »
Does groom's abode begin with 'Y'  ??? Ynypon, Ynypow?

ADDED: If bride's abode is 'Glebeland' - perhaps entry is just a street name? There is a Glebeland St in Merthyr Tydfil.

Also an Ynysgau Street?

This refers to an Ynysgau Cemetery in MT..
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/MerthyrTydfil
Seeking: baptism Philip Murray 1813 nr Chatham Kent, death Ralph James Dunn b 1808 1861 - 1868 in Newington 1861
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Nova Scotia [Halifax, Pictou]: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON

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Re: PR Entry help, please
« Reply #3 on: Friday 08 September 17 13:26 BST (UK) »
Looks like Ynysgarn or similar to me.

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Re: PR Entry help, please
« Reply #4 on: Friday 08 September 17 13:42 BST (UK) »
I would say it's Ynysgau, can't find a Ynysgarn on the Alan George site old Merthyr Tydfil.

http://www.alangeorge.co.uk/index.htm

Have added 1841 for info above. Residence looks likely Ynysgau

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Gibbons, Mordecai/Mort, Squire, Thomas, David/Davies, Joseph, Bowen, Lewis, Rees, Williams, Jones, Llewellyn, Morgan - Glam
Gibbons, Timbrell, Beale, Ludlow - Glos/Wilts
Davies, Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd, Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Shoemac, Squire, Keirle, Small - Somerset
Berry, Baggot, Lee, Clayton - Lancs
Baggot, Hurley, Keaveny, Shiel, Flynn - Ireland
Bray - Cornwall

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Re: PR Entry help, please
« Reply #5 on: Friday 08 September 17 13:45 BST (UK) »
These are the abode entries on the 2 pages of 1841 census [Frederick family on RH page] found by Cas[stallc].
HO107/pce 1415/bk 9/fol 5/p 2

Sorry, red writing, Cas - while I was 'snipping'  ;)
Seeking: baptism Philip Murray 1813 nr Chatham Kent, death Ralph James Dunn b 1808 1861 - 1868 in Newington 1861
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Nova Scotia [Halifax, Pictou]: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON

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Re: PR Entry help, please
« Reply #6 on: Friday 08 September 17 13:56 BST (UK) »
Yes,I see Ynysgau(or Ynysgaw) more clearly now.

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Roger

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Re: PR Entry help, please
« Reply #7 on: Friday 08 September 17 14:04 BST (UK) »
Marriage of Florence Frederick to Sarah John on 9 Jun 1828 Merthyr Tydfil.

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Re: PR Entry help, please
« Reply #8 on: Friday 08 September 17 15:06 BST (UK) »
Thanks everyone for your help. I'm researching my sister-in-law's family; they're all from the South Wales area and my Welsh is not the best :(

I'm now very curious as to the name of John's father, Florence Frederick. I've never come across Florence as a man's name before, so I'm interested if anyone has any information about the derivation of the name.

Cheers

David
Anderson - Leics., Yorks.; Attwood - Worcs., Staffs.,  Salop; Baylis - Worcs.; Beach/Bache - Worcs., Staffs., Salop; Bills - Devon, Worcs.
Dovey - Worcs., Staff., Salop; Gill - Worcs.; Hampton - Worcs., Staffs.; Hancox/Hancocks - Worcs., Staffs.
Hill - Worcs., Staffs., Salop; Sherwood - Worcs., Staffs.; Stonyer - Worcs., Staff., Salop, Essex
Woodall - Worcs., Staffs.; Potter - Essex.