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Help with signature pls - are they from the same person?
« on: Friday 08 September 17 21:51 BST (UK) »
Hi guys,

I wonder if you can take a look at these two signatures please and see if you think they are from the same person. One is from 1810 and the other from 1813.

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Ann

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Re: Help with signature pls - are they from the same person?
« Reply #1 on: Friday 08 September 17 22:22 BST (UK) »
Look like the same signature to me

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Re: Help with signature pls - are they from the same person?
« Reply #2 on: Friday 08 September 17 22:25 BST (UK) »
Look like the same signature to me

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Re: Help with signature pls - are they from the same person?
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 09 September 17 09:35 BST (UK) »
While "Lamb" looks similar, I think "Thos" is very different.
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Re: Help with signature pls - are they from the same person?
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 09 September 17 09:40 BST (UK) »
In my opinion they are not the same 'hand' - apart from 'Thos' looking very different, the first looks more confident, smooth & fast whereas the second looks more hesitant & slow done with concentration.

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Re: Help with signature pls - are they from the same person?
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 09 September 17 11:54 BST (UK) »
To me, they ARE by the same hand, the top one being later than the lower one.

The top signature is written with confidence and seems more mature. In the lower signature, in my opinion the earlier one, the 'Thos' is different from the later one. I think it has developed and changed a bit over the 3 years between them. But in 'Lamb'  the formation of the letters is the same - same shape, same slope, same joining up.  I think over the 3 years it's just developed into a more mature signature.

So, for me, they ARE by the same hand.

Anne

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Re: Help with signature pls - are they from the same person?
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 09 September 17 12:02 BST (UK) »
They do not look to be written by the same person to me.

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Re: Help with signature pls - are they from the same person?
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 09 September 17 12:03 BST (UK) »
If it turns out that the top signature is the one from 1810 and the lower one from 1813, could advancing years and deteriorating health have caused the signature to change to the more 'shaky' style of the lower one?      A