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West Derby, Walton on Hill, Death/buriel lookup - CLEMENTS William
« on: Saturday 09 September 17 08:24 BST (UK) »
Hi would someone please be able to try and find this family, lived around walton on hill area. I have found some marriage and birth info so am after death/burial, census or any information you can find. Thank you.

Father: William (Harold?) Clements - an engraver
Mother:  Margaret Williams (or Gordon)
They were married 14/10/1816 at St Annes, Liverpool, so must have been born c1790's

Children: ambrosina b1819, william? b1821, Cornelius? (b1822) Charles b1826?, Harold b1827 (died in new zealand), margaret isabella (died in australia), clemintina b1829, camilla b1830, septimus b1831 (may have gone to america)

The impression I have is that the family were wealthy, I am descended from Harold and we were told he was a remittance man but I am not sure if this is correct.

Margaret married James Harper Kirkham they emigrated to australia
Harold married Maria Ryding Kirkham, also went to australia.  Harold may have been in merchant navy.

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Re: West Derby, Walton on Hill, Death/buriel lookup - CLEMENTS William
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 09 September 17 08:54 BST (UK) »
He died on 8 May 1850:

On the 8th instant, in Bold-Place, in his 60th year, Mr. William Clements, wood engraver.

(Liverpool Mail, 11 May 1850)

There was a son Ambrose born circa 1819 who died in December 1836:

On Wednesday the 7th inst. aged 17, Ambrose Clements, son Mr. Clements, engraver

(Gore's Liverpool General Advertiser, 15 December 1836)

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Re: West Derby, Walton on Hill, Death/buriel lookup - CLEMENTS William
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 09 September 17 09:48 BST (UK) »
The age in the newspaper announcement appears to be slightly out. The GRO index records William's age at death as 56.

There is a burial at Walton on the Hill on 11 May 1850 for William Clements, aged 56 of Liverpool.
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Re: West Derby, Walton on Hill, Death/buriel lookup - CLEMENTS William
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 09 September 17 09:54 BST (UK) »
The age in the newspaper announcement appears to be slightly out. The GRO index records William's age at death as 56.

There is a burial at Walton on the Hill on 11 May 1850 for William Clements, aged 56 of Liverpool.

This is the image for that burial:-

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L96J-W9CV-B?i=473&cat=488464


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Re: West Derby, Walton on Hill, Death/buriel lookup - CLEMENTS William
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 09 September 17 10:00 BST (UK) »
This appears to be the family in the 1841 census. No sign of William (senior) or Harold or Cornelius:

1, Peach Street

Margaret Clements 40 publican
William 20 land surveyor
Charles 15
Margaret 15
John 14 mariner ap
Camilla 9
Septimus 7

All born in-county
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Re: West Derby, Walton on Hill, Death/buriel lookup - CLEMENTS William
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 09 September 17 10:10 BST (UK) »
Septimus Clements married Margaret Gunning at St Patrick's in 1858:-

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NJWS-GCT


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Re: West Derby, Walton on Hill, Death/buriel lookup - CLEMENTS William
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 09 September 17 10:35 BST (UK) »
 :) thank you very much for the information, it is much appreciated and very helpful.

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Re: West Derby, Walton on Hill, Death/buriel lookup - CLEMENTS William
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 09 September 17 10:57 BST (UK) »
In Gore's 1843 Directory, William Clements, engraver(wood) is at 10 Falkland Street.

1 Peach Street is occupied by Henry Riding.

That "Riding" name crops up in an advert in the Melbourne Argus on 23 August 1856:

CLEMENTS, MARIA RIDING, who sailed from Liverpool, 1852, in the Alciope, is requested to communicate with Harold Clements....

https://goo.gl/eMHcyc
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Re: West Derby, Walton on Hill, Death/buriel lookup - CLEMENTS William
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 09 September 17 11:00 BST (UK) »
Another marriage for Septimus, in New York in 1869:-

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:24ZT-D7P


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