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Catherine & Margaret Woods (1830s)
« on: Saturday 09 September 17 13:51 BST (UK) »
I am tracing a family (or families!) who moved from Ireland to Liverpool.

1851 census has John McMoran and his wife Margaret, aged 24 and 22 respectively, living in Liverpool. (HO107/2181/266/84).

1861 census has John and Margaret, & children, living in Toxteth Park.
They have a visitor, Catherine Ashcroft, married, with 2 children. (RG09/2699/95/38).
The GRO Index confirms mother's maiden name for both Margaret's & Catherines's children as Woods.

1871 census has John McMorran and wife Catherine. Catherine's children are now MacMorran.
I can't find either a death for Margaret, or a marriage for John & Catherine.

The 1881 census has them transcribed as McMurden (RG11/3644/118/33).
Again all children I have found on the GRO Index, with MMN as Woods. Some were Ashcroft; some were MacMorran (or variants!).

So, back to Ireland! ;D
Were Catherine & Margaret sisters? or cousins?

Is there any sign of marriages of either to a Mr Ashcroft or John MacMoran?

The only hit I have is an 1847 marriage, of Catherine Woods to James Cartmel.
This took place in Dundalk, Louth.
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)

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Re: Catherine & Margaret Woods (1830s)
« Reply #1 on: Monday 11 September 17 11:38 BST (UK) »
Civil registration of Catholic marriages in Ireland didn't start until 1864 (from 1845 for non-Catholic ones) so before those dates the only record of the marriage will be from church registers. Not all church records that survive are online.

Any idea of religion or more exact location than 'Ireland'?
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Re: Catherine & Margaret Woods (1830s)
« Reply #2 on: Monday 11 September 17 12:11 BST (UK) »
All census records simply state born Ireland.

I have had some info, however:
Margaret Woods married John McMoran on 18th March 1850 in Dundalk, Co. Louth.

I will be at my local library this afternoon, using their version of Ancestry.
There are apparently some trees that says Margaret was born in Mellifont, 1827.

Eureka! I have found at baptism on the Mellifont RC registers!
Baptised 13th February 1827.
Margaret Woods, daughter of Michael & Bridget Smyth<??>

Anyone better than me in reading this handwriting?

Now to searchbrowse the remainder of the Mellifont Register.
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)

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Re: Catherine & Margaret Woods (1830s)
« Reply #3 on: Monday 11 September 17 13:23 BST (UK) »
OK, I have looked at Mellifont baptisms from 1827 until 1835 - no sign of Catherine :-\
In all censuses 1861, 1871 and 1881 her age points to a date of birth in 1833/4.

In 1881 she is an inmate of the Lancaster County Lunatic Asylum - that might be something else to look at?
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)