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Re: FRANCES LITHERLAND.
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 10 September 17 10:01 BST (UK) »

I would look for Nathan and Peter with a brother Richard.

I also saw an article that Peter Litherland had a patent for a type of
watch gear he had invented, early 1700's  I think it was.

The Litherland Davies & Company on Church Street in a later directory
says they manufacture watch gears.

Somebody had to leave a will check the Lancashire Record Office, I've not found anything in PCC wills .

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Re: FRANCES LITHERLAND.
« Reply #10 on: Monday 11 September 17 01:28 BST (UK) »
Richard himself is  a problem, an online tree  and Lancs OPC has his parents as John Litherland and Eleanor Picton, but John is a and glazier. This doesn`t seem to fit but I can`t find another baptism.  ???
Clocks and watches have glass.

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Re: FRANCES LITHERLAND.
« Reply #11 on: Monday 11 September 17 09:17 BST (UK) »
Richard himself is  a problem, an online tree  and Lancs OPC has his parents as John Litherland and Eleanor Picton, but John is a and glazier. This doesn`t seem to fit but I can`t find another baptism.  ???
Clocks and watches have glass.

In this case I think it`s windows. Thanks for the input though.
Marriage: 13 Apr 1801 St Anne Richmond, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
 John Litherland - Plumber & Glazier, the Parish of Liverpool
 Eleanor Pickton - (X), Widow, the same Parish
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Re: FRANCES LITHERLAND.
« Reply #12 on: Monday 11 September 17 11:13 BST (UK) »
Wilcoxon

This won't add anything to your search. However, my ancestor, Thomas Sudlow, had been involved with Litherland Davis (Davies?) before its wind up in 1829. There doesn't seem to have been a Ltherland involved at that point.

When I looked into this some years ago it became apparent that Peter Litherland was from Warrington and was a prominent freemason. They may be areas you could look into.

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Re: FRANCES LITHERLAND.
« Reply #13 on: Friday 22 September 17 08:32 BST (UK) »
Well, after searching till my eyes popped out I am no further on with this After looking at the burials of the children ,  most records at St Peter I would have thought if any where she would be in there.
I didn`t find any wills, only one administration document .
The freemason link gave some good results from Christian Litherland who married James Broadhurst.
Where did you find the freemason link to Peter Litherland
 http://www.mqmagazine.co.uk/issue-13/p-34.php
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Re: FRANCES LITHERLAND.
« Reply #14 on: Friday 22 September 17 11:14 BST (UK) »

Wilcoxon

Iíve tried to go back over my previous searches but havenít been able to find the direct Masonic connection. Perhaps I just had the recollection that Peter Litherlandís sister marries a prominent mason. Iím sorry if I misled you.

Thereís a general history of the Masonic rebellion here:

http://www.knightstemplar.org/KnightTemplar/articles/liverpool.htm

Unfortunately it doesnít mention Peter Litherland although it does mention his brother in law James Broadhurst.

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Re: FRANCES LITHERLAND.
« Reply #15 on: Friday 22 September 17 21:25 BST (UK) »
Wilcoxon

A bit more information about Peter Litherland,

On the north side, opposite the church, stands the establishment of Messrs. Roskell and Co., watch manufacturers. The history of the watch trade in Liverpool is not devoid of interest, as being one of the few manufactures which have been carried on with success. It is said that there are only three places in the United Kingdom where watches are actually made, viz. London, Liverpool, and Coventry. I have alluded, in Chapter V., to John Wyke, who was one of the first to introduce the manufacture into the town. John Wyke died in 1787. William Tarleton is said to have been the first person who brought the Liverpool made watches into high repute. In the Directory of 1766 he is found in Bixteth Street. Before 1781 he had removed to No. 8 Church Street, then recently built. The neighbouring Tarleton Street in all probability derives its name from this source. In 1803 he was succeeded by Robert Roskell, who had previously carried on business in Byrom Street, and had married Tarleton's daughter. On the same premises the business has been carried on by successive generations of the same family to the present time.

The Right Rev. Dr. Roskell, R.C. Bishop of Nottingham, was a descendant of Robert Roskell.

Another well known name in the same manufacture, Peter Litherland, the inventor of the lever watch, was long connected with Church Street. In 1796 we first find him in Mount Pleasant, about which time a circular was issued by Litherland, Whiteside, and Banning, calling public attention to their improvements. They then removed to Ranelagh Street, and in 1810 to Church Street, the firm being subsequently changed to Litherland, Davies, and Co.

About 1837 they removed to Bold Street, where they still remain.

From:

MEMORIALS OF LIVERPOOL HISTORICAL AND TOPOGRAPHICAL INCLUDING A HISTORY OF THE DOCK ESTATE BY J.A.PICTON,F.S.A. SECOND EDITION, REVISED, WITH ADDITIONS IN TWO VOLUMES

VOL.II.

TOPOGRAPHICAL

LONDON:
LONGMANS,GREEN,& CO.
LIVERPOOL:G.G. WALMSLEY 1875


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