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Re: SHIELLS family of Black Callerton, then Whitley Bay (ignore the Kansas ones)
« Reply #18 on: Wednesday 13 September 17 15:54 BST (UK) »
Hi Gen List Lass,

I have felt so sorry that you have not been able to find your ancestor's burial that I squeezed in Tyne and Wear Archives today.  However, sorry I still can't find her at St Nicholas' Cemetery in Fenham.  I have also tried Hetton-le-Hole and St Nicholas at Boldon as a long shot without success.

Now I am stumped!   ::)

I wonder if any other RootsChatters have any suggestions?

Sorry I have not been able to help find her today.

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Re: SHIELLS family of Black Callerton, then Whitley Bay (ignore the Kansas ones)
« Reply #19 on: Wednesday 13 September 17 17:22 BST (UK) »
Hi River Tyne Lass

This is really bizarre! To put a death notice in a newspaper and then not to bury the lady at  that cemetery is weird! Irrespective of whether they noted which St Nicks cemetery they were talking about....

In the 20 plus years I've been doing genealogy, I've not come across this one before:-) I'll ask around a few people to see whether I'm overlooking the obvious.....  Just in case Rootschatters are looking the other way at the moment:-)

Thank you again for your extra tenacity in helping with the Newcastle end of the research, you are a star!

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Re: SHIELLS family of Black Callerton, then Whitley Bay (ignore the Kansas ones)
« Reply #20 on: Thursday 21 September 17 18:10 BST (UK) »
Given that this was in a Newcastle newspaper and the only location given in the death announcement was 'St. Nicholas Cemetery', my money would still be on St. Nicholas, Fenham.

RT Lass was very kind to check the records there for you - I wonder if she could confirm that both consecrated and unconsecrated burials were checked?
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Re: SHIELLS family of Black Callerton, then Whitley Bay (ignore the Kansas ones)
« Reply #21 on: Thursday 21 September 17 21:19 BST (UK) »
Hi jon541,

I just checked the burial registers.  From the Tyne and Wear registers guide it appears to me that both consecrated and unconsecrated are on microfilm number 1388.  If anyone out there can let me know if I should have been checking some other reel please let me know.

I agree Jon, that it Is reasonable given the wording of the death notice that she would be found there.  Unfortunately,  I was unable to find Isabella here.  I would have liked to have helped Gen List Lass get closure on this but so far the answer appears to be eluding us all.
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Re: SHIELLS family of Black Callerton, then Whitley Bay (ignore the Kansas ones)
« Reply #22 on: Friday 22 September 17 05:51 BST (UK) »
Thanks RTL - I'm sure you're an old hand at this so would have checked both.  It just seemed likely that "St. Nicholas Cemetery" without any other indicator would have meant only one thing to a Newcastle readership.

How frustrating... as GLL has already checked the other potential St. Nick's at Cramlington and Gosforth, it's difficult to think of anywhere else to look.  Clearly, with a horsedrawn cortege leaving Whitley Bay it can't have been too far!

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Re: SHIELLS family of Black Callerton, then Whitley Bay (ignore the Kansas ones)
« Reply #23 on: Friday 22 September 17 09:04 BST (UK) »
I agree Jon541, that it likely can't have been too far away.  I think she may have been buried with her
husband.  As he died at Black Callerton he may have been buried in a Newcastle Cemetery.  I have checked two cemeteries St Nicholas and St Andrew and Jesmond.  Gen List Lass Knows someone who has checked the Old Jesmond Cemetery.  I wonder if it might be worth checking St John's Cemetery next.  I am unable to do this check just now due to work commitments.  I hope If anyone is at the archives they might be able to check this for Gen List Lass?

I am sure many of us would like to see her get closure on this puzzling scenario.  This thread certainly seems to be getting a lot of attention in the Common Room too!

If only Gen was famous so she could go on 'Who Do You Think You Are' and have this seemingly effortlessly found out by a team of behind the scene experts. ;)  :)

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