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BENJAMIN family information
« on: Sunday 10 September 17 10:56 BST (UK) »
I have a  1871 UK census showing Michael H Benjamin merchant age 48 and wife Rachel aged 40
 their children lionel age 12 Alfred 10 Agnes 5 and Gertrude  3 were born in south Africa

But as Hyam also age 12 and Edwin H were born Surrey  UK
I suspect they may have been Rachel's children from a previous marriage

Are there any marriages for Michael H Benjamin in south Africa ?

He was a freemason  in  Good Hope in 1863 

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Re: BENJAMIN marriage please
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 10 September 17 11:56 BST (UK) »
I've also found a freemason record for Michael Henry Benjamin age 38 in 1857

Is it possible that the family travelled backwards and forwards to UK in the 1850',s and 60.' ?
I.m not finding travel records .?
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Re: BENJAMIN marriage please
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 10 September 17 12:04 BST (UK) »
I can't see a marriage entry, via Family Search, in South Africa.  However, there is a death entry for Alfred Montague Benjamin, son of Michael Henry and Rachael.
 
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS9L-9S99-K

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Re: BENJAMIN marriage please
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 10 September 17 12:28 BST (UK) »
Thanks bumblebee

 That at least shows that Alfred returned to South Africa 

As a widow Rachel is in London in 1891 with Edwin Agnes and Gertrude
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Re: BENJAMIN marriage please
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 10 September 17 12:35 BST (UK) »
That death document lists middle names of siblings too
And seems to have all as full siblings
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Re: BENJAMIN marriage please
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 10 September 17 12:37 BST (UK) »
Micheal Henry BENJAMIN died 1879 in London and left probate to eldest son Lionel harry BENJAMIN

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Re: BENJAMIN marriage please
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 10 September 17 13:06 BST (UK) »
If there is a south African census around 1860 the older children should be listed .

Hyam age 12 is listed under the other siblings on the 1971 census that's why I thought he might have been from a separate marriage  it's a common name apparently
 
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Re: BENJAMIN marriage please
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 10 September 17 13:20 BST (UK) »
Not answering your query but F M P has London, Bethlem Hospital patient admission registers and casebook for an Edwin Hime Benjamin - dated July 7th 1908 - quite a lengthy report of 4 pages
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Re: BENJAMIN marriage please
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 10 September 17 14:00 BST (UK) »
As far as I'm aware there are no census records for South Africa - not sure there were ever any conducted.

Just a thought, and having looked again at the death entry for Alfred Montague Benjamin, I wonder whether you should be looking for Jewish records?

"Funeral Expenses - Witwatersrand Jewish Helping Hand and Burial Society"

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