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Gilbert Back, Austrian violinist
« on: Sunday 10 September 17 16:46 BST (UK) »
This is probably a long shot, but does anyone have any kind of information on Gilbert Back, an Austrian citizen, probably born around 1900.  He was 1st violinist with the Berliner Philharmonic from 1st October 1925 until around 1935.
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Re: Gilbert Back, Austrian violinist
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 10 September 17 21:12 BST (UK) »
Not sure if you have seen this already from google books www.rootschat.com/links/01kph/ which includes some potential personal details for him.

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Re: Gilbert Back, Austrian violinist
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 10 September 17 21:44 BST (UK) »
There is a Gilbert Back [Gilbert Adolphe Dietrich Back] , born 10 Jan 1902, Plovdiv, Bulgaria.

His wife Elizabeth Ruth Adler born in Frankfurt Germany in 1914. Numerous shipping entries showing for him. His occupation is given as a musician on a number of the manifests.

He applied for Naturalization in May 1947 whilst living in Santa Monica, California. His occupation showing as musican. He looks to have arrived in the US in 1946 from Turkey (I think this fits with what I read that he left the Berliner Philharmonic Orchestra and headed for Turkey?). Married Elizabeth Ruth in 1938 in Ankara, Turkey. This was given as his residence when arriving in the US in 1946.

He died in Vienna, Austria on 11 Dec 1967 from sleeping medicine poisoning. He and Elizabeth Ruth were divorced the previous year in 1966. He was cremated in Vienna and his ashes returned to his ex wife Elizabeth Ruth for burial in the US. She was living in San Diego, California at the time.

I don't think there were children from the marriage.

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Re: Gilbert Back, Austrian violinist
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 10 September 17 21:47 BST (UK) »
The link that Monica gave you suggests that Back ended up in America. 

There is a US Social Security Death Index record for a Gilbert Back, Age 65, born 10 January 1902, last place of residence San Diego, California.  He died in December 1967.

Whether this is your man or not I don't know.  His birth year is around the 1900 that you gave in your post.

I found the record on Family Search.
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire


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Re: Gilbert Back, Austrian violinist
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 10 September 17 21:54 BST (UK) »
According to Find A Grave Gilbert is buried at Westwood Memorial Park, Los Angeles, California.  The plot is in Main Lawn.
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire

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Re: Gilbert Back, Austrian violinist
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 10 September 17 22:03 BST (UK) »
Ex-wife Elizabeth Ruth died on 26 Jan 1989. Her parents showing as Franz Adler and Else Kuttner.

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Re: Gilbert Back, Austrian violinist
« Reply #6 on: Monday 11 September 17 09:03 BST (UK) »
This is to thank all those people who gave me links to info about Gilbert Back.  I am very grateful and now have all the information I need.

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Re: Gilbert Back, Austrian violinist
« Reply #7 on: Monday 11 September 17 09:41 BST (UK) »
One more article with two photographs of Gilbert Back

https://www.berliner-philharmoniker.de/en/history/wilhelm-furtwaengler/reichsorchester/

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Re: Gilbert Back, Austrian violinist
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 05 November 17 22:35 GMT (UK) »
Hello Kismet,

Discovered your message while making research on Gilbert Back.
I can also tell you he had a brother called Didier, who was a pianist.
His father was Josef Back and his mother Risa Pollak and his father
was himself the son of Moriz Back, and Antoinette née Schnabel.

I do not know what you are looking for, but I may have more pieces of information for you.
Please feel free to contact me through private messages (do not know if it even exits on this forum, just created an account to answer your message).

And I'm particularly interested if you are in anyway related to the Back family or
any family associated with it.

Best from Paris,
L.