Hi Ros
Just to let you know that I have found the will of Ellen Alice in my folder but, as you said, there is no probate (another note) for Thomas Cheers P
Majm
I have now printed off all posts so that I can try to answer your queries a bit easier
You ask what my connection is to the family. as stated in my first post I am the GT GT niece of Thomas. One of his brothers was my Gt Grandfather (Are you related? ) Quote: -
""I have other information available for the couple I noted on the 1902....."
The marriage cert: -
Friends of mine were visiting from Melbourne and offered to apply for this on their return. As you probably know, because they are not direct descendants, they were only permitted the abridged version. This states the couple, venue. date, occupation, residence place, witness' and conjugal status - in this case Widow/Widower. I agree with the comment that some vicars were happy to just accept this -
( but wonder if there were some records around relating to immigrants to confirm/disprove?)
We know Ellen was a widow after Edward was killed- thanks to Jamjar for the report, and I do have their full marriage cert. (And thank you Majm for Albert - I had missed him.)
I mentioned Ellen's will earlier. this clearly proves she was Thomas' widow- naming her daughter.
Then Ros turns up the obit for Thomas which says he arrived from Birmingham ( not quite) some 60 years previously ( if they counted his original "sudden" arrival also)
Although their marriage cert does not give his mother's maiden name ( and I have yet to see the correct one on Ancestry Public Trees) their Death Index, and if my memory is correct, the NSW Archive both correctly state the first names of his parents - my Gt Gt Grandparents.
Finally they are all laid to rest in the same grave- Ellen & her two husbands
I don't know how it is possible to convince you that I believe this to be "my" Thomas; his place of departure; his parent's names; the fact that he was not in England in 1681; the name on the Cuzco...? I can't provide any more, and doubt most people would have as much
And yes there are other Lockleys listed on passenger lists around this time, the majority are females and most ages are out. But I really didn't feel that I needed to expand that search further.
I am going to return- having had so many problems with losing almost completed posts. (3rd time for this one today) Reported it. cant risk it again
Pauline