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Re: Funeral in 1901 Northumberland - how fast would the hearse travel?
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 13 September 17 20:47 BST (UK) »
Back to the original question.  A horse-drawn hearse would travel at 3 to 4 mph (walking pace) in populated streets.  It might speed up through the countryside where no people were around..

Although the notice in the paper states: "Interment at St Nicholas's Cemetery", might it be possible (depending on the status of the deceased) that there was a church service (at St Nicholas) and a burial elsewhere?
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Re: Funeral in 1901 Northumberland - how fast would the hearse travel?
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 13 September 17 20:50 BST (UK) »
As it doesn't give an actual address, the notice seems to assume that it would be known to people.
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Re: Funeral in 1901 Northumberland - how fast would the hearse travel?
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 14 September 17 08:14 BST (UK) »
Made a hash of the timing in  first post, the horses would walk or trot for 2 and a half hours, not 1 and a half!

I'll post if I ever do find poor Isabella's grave. In fact I will probably go and take a photo!!!

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Re: Funeral in 1901 Northumberland - how fast would the hearse travel?
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 14 September 17 08:32 BST (UK) »
Quote: "Interment at St Nicholas's Cemetery on Saturday, Oct.12th, 1901, at 3.0 o'clock;"

I'm thinking that a funeral cortege usually travelled at walking pace, as presumably some people would have been walking with the hearse. ( About 4 mph then?)
Secondly, I'm thinking it's likely there would have been some sort of funeral service before the interment although that was possibly only 20 minutes or half an hour max??
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Re: Funeral in 1901 Northumberland - how fast would the hearse travel?
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 14 September 17 09:07 BST (UK) »
I think I would be inclined to scan all churchyards and burial grounds within a 10 to 15 mile radius.

What about her death cert, what information do you have?

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Re: Funeral in 1901 Northumberland - how fast would the hearse travel?
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 14 September 17 09:11 BST (UK) »
Isabella died 09/10/1901, there is a will leaving monies to John Shiells, her address given was Whiteley Lodge Farms

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Re: Funeral in 1901 Northumberland - how fast would the hearse travel?
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 14 September 17 09:31 BST (UK) »
But isn't an interment the actual burial as opposed to a funeral service?
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Re: Funeral in 1901 Northumberland - how fast would the hearse travel?
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 14 September 17 10:04 BST (UK) »
The distance from where I live to Whitley Bay is about 8-10 miles (would be about the right time if walking).  I live about 5 mins walk from St Nicholas Church, Gosforth.  The graveyard is very large and many of the headstones have been taken down.  I would say that this is the most likely place of interment.

There is also a St Nicholas Church in Durham City in the Market Square but I don't think it has a burial ground attached.

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Re: Funeral in 1901 Northumberland - how fast would the hearse travel?
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 14 September 17 11:03 BST (UK) »
But isn't an interment the actual burial as opposed to a funeral service?

The notice is worded rather strangely to my thinking. Why no mention of the actual funeral service? Don't notices often say "Funeral at St xxxxxx church followed by burial in the churchyard" or something similar. Also there must be a reason why that particular cemetery was used, it doesn't sound as if it was the closest to where she lived.
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