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Re: James Hyde c.1874
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 13 September 17 22:13 BST (UK) »
In 1900 George A  hands is listed a widowed

1900 census: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MSJZ-Z3B

There is an article in Nov. 1904 that indicates he and Selina are married by then. She is referred to as "Mrs. Selina Hands"

1905 census: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MVB9-VLF

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By 1910 George and Selina are living seperate but still listed as married. George has a housekeeper Emily Martin. The daughter Lillian is living with Selina

George 1910 census: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M5HQ-KTX

Selina 1910 census: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M5HQ-P33

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The son Albert W in 1900/1905 census gets married in 1910. His mother is listesd as Mary Starkweather.

Marriage: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FFRF-WTZ

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The daughter Lillian gets married in 1914. Her mother is listed as Mary Ann Fairweather.  No mention of Selina in news clipping?

Amsterdam NY Evening Recorder
6 Feb. 1914
page 3

Lemlfty—Hands

Charles Lemley of Schenectady and Miss Lillian Hands, daughter of George A. Hands, of No. 246 West Main street, this city, were married Thursday evening a\ the rectory of SL John's church, Schenectady, by the Rev; Father P. A. Crowe. They were attended by Mr. and Mrs. William Lemley, brother and sister-in-law of the bridegroom. The bridal couple will take up their residence in Schenectady.

Marriage: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FFRF-L28

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In 1915 George A. is still living in the same location with the same housekeeper Emily Martin.

Can't find Selina in 1915.

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No mention of Selina?

Amsterdam NY Evening Recorder
27 Feb. 1912

George Hands, of No. 246. East Main street, left for New York city today, and will sail from there for England, where he will pass several weeks.

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George A Hands died in Sept/Oct 1918. Again no mention of Selina?

Amsterdam NY Evening Recorder  (see attached)
28 December 1918
page 3

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Re: James Hyde c.1874
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 13 September 17 23:26 BST (UK) »
There was a  marriage registered in Islington Middlesex England for George Albert Hands to Mary Ann E Fairweather - September 1884 - 1b 510

Percy son of George Hands - born 20 December 1890

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-816R-CSD?i=1857&cc=1968530

1910 Main Street Broadalbin, Fulton, New York.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M5CL-78J

Marriage of Percy Hands to Bertha L Cornell - 1 February 1913 Fulton New York. Parents - George Hands and mother Mary Fairweather.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KFFH-1TH

1920 Hawk Street Gloversville Ward 1, Fulton, New York

Percy K Hands   29 Bertha L Hands   24
Elizabeth K Hands 3 Isabelle R Hands   1

1925 Gloversville Fulton New York

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KSS7-VSP

1930 Percy with wife and children - Almond Street Gloversville, Fulton, New York.

Percy G Hands   39 Bertha B Hands   34
Elizabeth K Hands 13 Isabel R Hands   11
Claude Hands   9

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X7Z6-2TC

1940  Johnstown, Fulton, New York.

Percy Hands   48
Donald Lippert   22 Isabell Lippert 21 Donald H Lippert   1
Claude Hands   18
Gerald Bellinger   29
Betty Bellinger   23

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KQLJ-B6Z

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Re: James Hyde c.1874
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 13 September 17 23:27 BST (UK) »
FIND A GRAVE

Percy G Hands - 1890 - 1963

Burial: Ferndale Cemetery  Johnstown Fulton County New York.

https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=130463258

son Claude C Hands - 1920 - 2006

wife of Claude -  Betty M. Chetwynd Hands 1920 - 2011

https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=130463125

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Re: James Hyde c.1874
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 13 September 17 23:39 BST (UK) »
Elizabeth daughter of Percy G Hands and Bertha L Cornell - born 15 May 1916  Gloversville, New York passed away 13 February 1992 - Last Residence 12078 Gloversville, Fulton, New
Mar 1937: Name listed as ELIZABETH HANDS BELLINGER -  Jan 1956: Name listed as ELIZABETH KATHERINE BELLINGER -  Jul 1961 -  Name listed as ELIZABETH BELLINGER RAUER -  22 Feb 1992: Name listed as ELIZABETH B RAUER

Married 2 July 1961

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Burial -  Ferndale Cemetery  Johnstown Fulton County New York.

https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=130460009&ref=acom

husband - Robert H. Rauer 1920 - 1986

https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=130459771

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Re: James Hyde c.1874
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 13 September 17 23:47 BST (UK) »
Isabella daughter of Percy and Bertha - married to Donald Lippert
Isabelle Rose Hands Lippert - 13 July 1918 passed away 3 June 2006 - aged 87 years.
Obit listed The Leader-Herald - Gloversville, New York.

Last Residence 12095 Johnstown, Fulton, New York.

Donald H Lippert II who was aged 1 year on the 1940 census - passed away 30 January 2013 -
Nathan Littauer Hospital.  He was born 22 October, 1938, in Johnstown, N.Y -  the son of Donald and Isabel Hands Lippert. He was a graduate of Johnstown High School..................

http://www.leaderherald.com/obituaries/2013/02/donald-h-lippert-ii/

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Re: James Hyde c.1874
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 14 September 17 00:02 BST (UK) »
Lillian Hands daughter of Percy and Bertha - married 1914 to Charles lemley - they appear on the 1920 Census - Hawk Street Gloversville Ward 1, Fulton, New York.

Mary Lemley   51
Mary Lemley   18
James Lemley   11
Charles Lemley   26 Lillian Lemley 26 George Lemley 5 Alberta Lemley   3

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MVS4-QC5

1930 Worden Road Glenville, Schenectady, New York.

Charles Lemley   36 Lillian Lemley   35
George E Lemley 15 Albert Lemley 14 Mary Lemley 62
James Lemley   21

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X4TR-S1G

1940 Worden Road Glenville, Schenectady, New York.

Charles H Lemley   46 Lillian Lemley   46
George E Lemley   25 F Alberta Lemley   24
Mary M Lemley   72

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K31S-RZF

Lillian Lemley - 22 December 1893 - passed away March 1982 - Last Residence:   
12302 Scotia, Schenectady, New York.

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Lillian Lemley - Burial: Vale Cemetery  Schenectady Schenectady County New York.
Plot: U 58b 1

https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=167506448&ref=acom

Charles Lemley - 15 May 1956

Burial Vale Cemetery  Schenectady Schenectady County New York.
Plot: U 58b -

https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=lemley&GSiman=1&GScid=66580&GRid=167506445&

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Re: James Hyde c.1874
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 14 September 17 15:25 BST (UK) »
Wow! Firstly, thank you everyone for the time you have spent on this, I'm blown away by the amount of information you have found. It would seem that Selina and George married in America which at least answers why I could not find their marriage here. I'm wondering if she was previously married in the UK and travelled under a different surname with her first husband. I hadn't imagined that the search for James would uncover what seems to have been a very sad state of affairs. I'm not sure that I will ever discover what happened to him following his naturalization, unfortunately it isn't a rare name and there seem to have been a few with the same name who were close in age who travelled from the UK/Eire.  :(

Thank you Sandra, RJ137, Shellyesq and Lisa in California.