James Ernest Harvey/ Fanny Mary Guiver - Islington, Middlesex

[joanearls]

Hi
Can anyone help me find the parents of James Ernest Harvey born 1875 Islington . His marriage in Islington in 1896 states his father as James Ernest Harvey but I am unable to find James or his father in the 1881 or 1891 Census in Islington.
They had the following children:
Ernest 1897, William J, 1899, Charles Frederick 1902, James Ernest 1907, Violet 1907, Albert 1910,
Henry Thomas 1911, Leonard V. 1914.
It appears Fanny died at the birth of Leonard or as a result of in 1914.
Any information would be much appreciated.
Sincerely
Joan

[louisa maud]

Hi Joan
At the moment I can find a registration for James Ernest Harvey registered Islington March 1875 quarter  ref 1b 285, mother's maiden name Pleasants

Will look further for more info

Louisa Maud

[Kay99]

Is James's father occupation listed on this marriage cert??

Kay

[joanearls]

I have not got the original certificate except what I found on searching Ancestry which I am not a member.
Joan

[louisa maud]

I know you asked for James Ernest but there seems to be at least 2 other siblings,
Harvey/Pleasants

Alice Maud Islington 1878
Frederick Islington 1876

Also the names Harvey and MMN Pleasants feature a lot in Wangford

Louisa Muad

[joanearls]

Louisa
I have just looked up marriage of Harvey/Pleasance. Sadly it says Harvey is James William. I can find this family in Islington but not a James Ernest as father of James Ernest about 1875
Joan.

[louisa maud]

It would appear the whole family are in Railway St Islington 1881
James William 42 born Clerkenwell
Mary 43 Suffolk
William J 13
Ellen 10
Eliza 7
James 6
Frederick 4
Alice 2

all siblings  born Islington

It is quite possible the incumbent made an error, not unknown in the day

Louisa Maud

[Kay99]

I have not got the original certificate except what I found on searching Ancestry which I am not a member.
Joan

The image on Anc lists the father as a decorator  which ties in well with the family in the 1881 census that Louisa Maud posted

Kay

An earlier child is listed
WILLIAM  JOHN   HARVEY   mmn PLEASANCE      
GRO Ref 1868  March Qrter ISLINGTON  Volume 01B  Page 304

[louisa maud]

It seems the surname of Pleasants or Pleasance is shown on the children's registration, so I have now found a marriage for

James William Harvey full age of Camden Cotts Mews, father William dec'd
to
Mary Ann Pleasance full age of St Pauls Road father John
witnesses John Clark and Eliza pleas??, possibly pleasants/Pleasance
05/06/1861 Parish Church St Pancras

Louisa Maud