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Birth Record for David Cledwyn Matthews
« on: Saturday 16 September 17 17:01 BST (UK) »
I am trying find the record of birth for my Grandfather David Cledwyn Matthews in Glamorgan &  probably in Swansea.
 I have a copy of his marriage certificate dated 1st June 1907 at which time he was recorded as being 23 which would make his year of birth 1884.
I have looked online with findmypast and attempted to order a birth certificate from the General Records Office but to no avail.
Is there anyone who can help a very new family researcher crack this problem.
I should be most grateful

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Re: Birth Record for David Cledwyn Matthews
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 16 September 17 17:18 BST (UK) »
Welcome to Rootschat.  :)

Have you found David on a census record to confirm his birth place? Who did he marry in 1907?

Howard , Viney , Kingsman, Pain/e, Rainer/ Rayner, Barham, George, Wakeling (Catherine), Vicary (Frederick)   all LDN area/suburbs  Ottley/ MDX,
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Re: Birth Record for David Cledwyn Matthews
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 16 September 17 17:26 BST (UK) »
Welcome from me also. :)

If you have his marriage certificate who does it say is his father, and who were the witnesses, every bit of info helps.

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Re: Birth Record for David Cledwyn Matthews
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 16 September 17 17:33 BST (UK) »
There is this one from Familysearch

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01kqi/

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Re: Birth Record for David Cledwyn Matthews
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 16 September 17 17:36 BST (UK) »
The first one of these might be worth following up (if you have not already done so of course) - seems to be the same one as mazi is pointing you at

MATTHEWS, DAVID  GWDYN  mmn - 1885  Sep  SWANSEA   11A   802

MATHEWS, DAVID    mmn JAMES  1883  Dec SWANSEA   11A   642

MATHEWS, DAVID    mmn POWELL  1884  Sep  NEATH   11A   682

MATHEWS, DAVID    mmn - 1885  Dec  CARMARTHEN   11A   904
Richard Wernham (Berkshire 18th century),
William Hissey (1805 to 1813, Hampstead Norris),
Kapirin (Siberia 19th Century),
Kitching 1850,
Mary Howse born 1806 ish,
Chris Truelove marr. John Pocock 2-7-1696, Kintbury, Berks

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Re: Birth Record for David Cledwyn Matthews
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 16 September 17 17:41 BST (UK) »
This is him in 1911

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWXV-KH2

Possible on 1901, again in Llandilo Talybont
    
Thomas Matthews    76 - married, b Llandilo Talybont
Ann Matthews    58 - wife b Pontardulais
David C Matthews    15 b Swansea, son, stoker at colliery

RG13, 5067, 78, 31

(suspect grandparents?)

there's a Swansea poorlaw register entry of a David Matthews, dob 16 August 1885, illegitimate son of Ann Matthews

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Re: Birth Record for David Cledwyn Matthews
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 16 September 17 17:46 BST (UK) »
David isn't with Thomas in 1891. Here's Thomas in 1881 - note the  elder daughter

address Tavernypiod, Llandilo Talybont

Thomas Mathews    56 - widow,, Coal Proprietor Employing 5 Men 
Ann Mathews    19 - daughter b Llandilo Talybont
Jennet Mathews    13 - daughter b Lougher
Rachel Stradling    50 - boarder
Wm. Stradling    19 - boarder

RG11, 5350, 80, 7

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Re: Birth Record for David Cledwyn Matthews
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 16 September 17 17:56 BST (UK) »
Thanks to all for the leads

The one regarding the Swansea Poor law register in interesting.
As my mother told my sister just before she died that her father, David, was illegitimate