Joseph Channer1786-1862

[andmc1]

I am trying to find out more about josephs life

i have him christened  5 nov 1786 st marys chesham   jseph watts
parents ruth watts and isaac channer
after is parents wewre married he seem to use channer as his surname

i am trying to work out who his wife elizabeth was
we have her on 1851 census and elizabeth from  manchester
then 1861 she is from kent

was henry channer 1813  born chesham their son
was joseph 1819/1821 chesham -1863 leighton buzzard  married to esther from manchester their son

at the moment i have 6 children 
margaret 1818 married to william hawkins
elizabeth1822 chesh 1895 hemelhempstead  married to james watts
mary 1826/28
john 1829-1832
jehu 1832-(1891-1901 nt sure of death date ) married to sarah mead
isaac 1834-1913 chesham  married to margaret moor


andrea

[bucksboy]

If the baptism includes the fathers name, as well as mothers maiden name,(even though they married at a later date), it is an 'acknowledgement', 'under god' and therefore 'by law',  that he is the actual father.
This can be disputed, if the baptism register says.....'Reputed father'.  This would mean, that Ruth Watts, is the only one giving the 'evidence' of the fathers name.

Did Isaac Channer leave a Will, after his death....is Joseph named.  Is Isaac Channer named as father on Joseph's marriage cert.

There is a Will available at the Centre For Buckinghanshire Studies(CBS), for Isaac Channer, a Farmer.  Date of Will, 24 Oct 1832.  Probate - 30 Oct 1841.  This maybe available online, but can be applied for from the CBS, for £5, plus postage.(£2).

https://shop.buckscc.gov.uk/s4s/WhereILive/Council?pageId=2347&pid=36803787-1a6a-4c46-bbfb-a5ad00f89b6b&supId=c988f85e-be98-4bf3-b184-a5ad00efd350&bcgId=fcea1611-2a26-4a1d-a4a6-b480f7423e14


Steve.

[andmc1]

yes i have copy of isaacs will

he refers to joseph and
 all his 11 children he had with his housekeeper
after ruth died



andrea

[bucksboy]

Ask BucksFHS for some baptisms searches.

Steve.

[andmc1]

hi
yes i have done all that
i don`t think the children were christened

Joseph watts Channer
at the moment i have  a possible marriage in Newcastle upon Tyne
 for a Joseph   Channer and Elizabeth more 1813
all the entry says is both of this parish  ( i was told this over the phone )

 we find out from census Elizabeth is from Manchester / kent
was Joseph watts channer  up north  if so why ?

the Joseph Channer 1819/21-1863 ran a pub  black horse in Leighton buzzard
his wife Esther came from  Manchester 1818 died 1896 in Leighton buzzard

henry channer 1813 seemed to be in the courts and sent to Tasmania