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Re: Joseph Ribbans & Jane ?? both bapt. 1837approx 1837 Essex - where are they?
« Reply #18 on: Monday 18 September 17 22:51 BST (UK) »

A lot of what I have said above is a repeat mostly of your kind searches. It appears then that Joseph went under his "step-mother's" name of Gaymer.

Alan

from 1841 I think it the other way round. Joseph was born Gaymer, son of Isabella and ?, and took on his step father's name Ribbans. However when officialdom comes calling he has to use his "legal" surname of Gaymer.  Joseph is with Isabella on 1841, and not with Robert and Sarah

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Re: Joseph Ribbans & Jane ?? both bapt. 1837approx 1837 Essex - where are they?
« Reply #19 on: Tuesday 19 September 17 08:11 BST (UK) »
Hi all,

The mystery deepens. I have now found their marriage entry which says;
 
20-6-1860 St.Mary Newington, Surrey;
Joseph Gaymer fa, bach, shoemaker,  s/o Joseph Gaymer, Farmer to
Jane Oliver fa, sp, d/o William Oliver, Shopkeeper

These details tie in nicely with the 1861 census but why has he changed names back to Ribbans for the 1871 census?
All indications are that he was born abt 1837 Bradfield, Essex the s/o Robert Ribbans & Sarah(nee Barber) who married  8-9-1837 Lawford Essex. Sarah died and was bu.  Tenring Dist Mar1/4 1842

Lizzie; have you got baptism records or birth reg for any of the children?
No -  all the info I have is taken from the 1871 census

Looking again Joseph is aged 5 in the 1841 census under Joseph & Isabella Gaymer so the  comment Mabel has made is the correct one.
Its obvious now that he took the name "Ribbans"  from his "stepfather" when his mother met Robert Ribbans.

I will continue searching under Gaymer.

Thanks for all your help.

Alan
Browse, Peggs, Revans/Revance/Ribbans, Spall,   in Suffolk/Norfolk
Belcher, Elderfield, Froude, Saunders,  Stimson, Tame,   in Berks
Artis, Gray in Norfolk

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Re: Joseph Ribbans & Jane ?? both bapt. 1837approx 1837 Essex - where are they?
« Reply #20 on: Tuesday 19 September 17 08:13 BST (UK) »
first 3 births regd in Newington as Gaymer,
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Scott, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott
Essex/Herts: Livermore, Holgate, Law, Day, Myson, Boyton
Norfolk/Suffolk: Stone, Alexander, Tipple, Ingate

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Re: Joseph Ribbans & Jane ?? both bapt. 1837approx 1837 Essex - where are they?
« Reply #21 on: Tuesday 19 September 17 08:21 BST (UK) »
looks like another child Charlotte reg Q4 1863, but no sign of "Sessie" the youngest, Newington reg dist became St Saviours Southwark abt 1870
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Scott, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott
Essex/Herts: Livermore, Holgate, Law, Day, Myson, Boyton
Norfolk/Suffolk: Stone, Alexander, Tipple, Ingate

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Re: Joseph Ribbans & Jane ?? both bapt. 1837approx 1837 Essex - where are they?
« Reply #22 on: Tuesday 19 September 17 08:25 BST (UK) »
could be Joseph's death Q1 1902 Southwark, age 68 as Gaymer, age a tiny bit out, but depends on knowledge of informant
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Scott, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott
Essex/Herts: Livermore, Holgate, Law, Day, Myson, Boyton
Norfolk/Suffolk: Stone, Alexander, Tipple, Ingate

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Re: Joseph Ribbans & Jane ?? both bapt. 1837approx 1837 Essex - where are they?
« Reply #23 on: Tuesday 19 September 17 08:27 BST (UK) »
Thanks Lizzie,

Thats pretty conclusive they are all Gaymer. All I have is;
Jane 1862, Albert Edward 1865, William 1867 & Sessie 1869. Nothing shows in the 1871 for Charlotte.

I have nothing on Joseph as yet but will continue looking under Gaymer.

Alan
Browse, Peggs, Revans/Revance/Ribbans, Spall,   in Suffolk/Norfolk
Belcher, Elderfield, Froude, Saunders,  Stimson, Tame,   in Berks
Artis, Gray in Norfolk

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Re: Joseph Ribbans & Jane ?? both bapt. 1837approx 1837 Essex - where are they?
« Reply #24 on: Tuesday 19 September 17 08:34 BST (UK) »
Thanks Lizzie,

Thats pretty conclusive they are all Gaymer. All I have is;
Jane 1862, Albert Edward 1865, William 1867 & Sessie 1869. Nothing shows in the 1871 for Charlotte.

I have nothing on Joseph as yet but will continue looking under Gaymer.

Alan

Charlotte died 1864 age 1 registerd Newington
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Scott, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott
Essex/Herts: Livermore, Holgate, Law, Day, Myson, Boyton
Norfolk/Suffolk: Stone, Alexander, Tipple, Ingate

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Re: Joseph Ribbans & Jane ?? both bapt. 1837approx 1837 Essex - where are they?
« Reply #25 on: Tuesday 19 September 17 08:51 BST (UK) »
Jessie maria Gaymer d/o Joseph - bootmaker age 22 married Walter Percy Lewsey Perry on 27 Mar 1891 - looks like "Sessie"
All sts Walworth near Southwark
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Scott, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott
Essex/Herts: Livermore, Holgate, Law, Day, Myson, Boyton
Norfolk/Suffolk: Stone, Alexander, Tipple, Ingate

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Re: Joseph Ribbans & Jane ?? both bapt. 1837approx 1837 Essex - where are they?
« Reply #26 on: Tuesday 19 September 17 08:55 BST (UK) »
Edward married Catherine Woodnutt 1896. Edward was a farrier, Jane Gaymer one of witnesses - could be his mother or sister, but I think sister was actually Sarah Jane

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Catherine was a widow, father John thomas
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Scott, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott
Essex/Herts: Livermore, Holgate, Law, Day, Myson, Boyton
Norfolk/Suffolk: Stone, Alexander, Tipple, Ingate