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School Records RC Schools in Waterford City early 1900's
« on: Monday 18 September 17 19:18 BST (UK) »
I am hoping that school records were kept and still exist but don't no where to start looking for them.

The period I am particularly interested in is around the 1901 and 1911 censuses. It is a hunch that the children may have been educated at St Stephen's later De La Salle (if my memory serves me). The families were RC and lived in Mayor's Walk and Beau Street. My hunch is that may St Stephen's may have been the local school.  The other question is would boys and girls have received formal education at a school at this time.

Need some guidance and pointed in the right direction.

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Re: School Records RC Schools in Waterford City early 1900's
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 20 September 17 09:34 BST (UK) »
"Commissioners for National Education The Commissioners for National Education (National Education Board) were established in 1831 for the purpose of administering a fund of £30,000 placed at the disposal of the Lord Lieutenant for the education of the poor in Ireland."

Find My Past show a database for some 19th century Irish school registers-
https://search.findmypast.ie/search-world-records/ireland-national-school-registers

This page indicates that Catholic school registers may be in local custody.
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Re: School Records RC Schools in Waterford City early 1900's
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 20 September 17 10:32 BST (UK) »
"Commissioners for National Education The Commissioners for National Education (National Education Board) were established in 1831 for the purpose of administering a fund of £30,000 placed at the disposal of the Lord Lieutenant for the education of the poor in Ireland."

Find My Past show a database for some 19th century Irish school registers-
https://search.findmypast.ie/search-world-records/ireland-national-school-registers

This page indicates that Catholic school registers may be in local custody.

Hi the link you provided does indeed show education records. Although I have a subscription for FindMyPast it  seems this is yet another set of records that is not available unless I upgrade. I get really hacked off if I have a subscription then its records should all be available. How stupid is this like saying you can have a library membership but you can only select books form the pastimes section. The index search gave me 5 records. These are all from one of my families. Do you have access to these records. Essentially I just want to know they school they attended and when. If you know what they were taught that would be a bonus. Also at what age they entered and how long many years they typically attended leading up and at the turn of the the 1900's. What I forgot to say in my first request is one of the families, which I believe is the one where entries are found, were living in Wexford for almost 10 years before moving back to Waterford. He was a ship's Captain and operated out of Wexford during this time.

First name(s)   Last name   Birth year   Year   County
Bessie   Lumley   1903   1909   Waterford
Ellen           Lumley   1885   1889   Waterford
Lilly           Lumley   1884   1889   Waterford
May      Lumley   1889   1896   Waterford
Willie   Lumley   1885   1889   Waterford


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Re: School Records RC Schools in Waterford City early 1900's
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 20 September 17 11:04 BST (UK) »
I don't have  subscription to Find My Past but its terms & conditions and Rootschat's policy preclude asking for lookups.

The National School system was set up in 1831 so by the period you are interesting in there was a well established system in place. Children often started school around age 4 or 5 although I have seen 3 year olds on register but age 6 was the required age (see 1st link below). The school register will list number on roll, date of entry, age/date of birth, child' name, address (townland or street), religion, father's occupation. Sometimes you will get a previous school or school child moved to. Usually separate register for Female Infants, Female Juniors & Seniors, Male Infants, Male Juniors & Seniors. Both my in laws went to school in early 1900s and leaving age was 14.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raising_of_school_leaving_age#Ireland

There is lots online if you search. Here are a few examples-
http://www.teachdontpreach.ie/2011/09/a-history-of-the-irish-education-system-2/
http://education.stateuniversity.com/pages/695/Ireland-EDUCATIONAL-SYSTEM-OVERVIEW.html
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Re: School Records RC Schools in Waterford City early 1900's
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 20 September 17 11:11 BST (UK) »
I don't have  subscription to Find My Past but its terms & conditions and Rootschat's policy preclude asking for lookups.

The National School system was set up in 1831 so by the period you are interesting in there was a well established system in place. Children often started school around age 4 or 5 although I have seen 3 year olds on register but age 6 was the required age (see 1st link below). The school register will list number on roll, date of entry, age/date of birth, child' name, address (townland or street), religion, father's occupation. Sometimes you will get a previous school or school child moved to. Usually separate register for Female Infants, Female Juniors & Seniors, Male Infants, Male Juniors & Seniors. Both my in laws went to school in early 1900s and leaving age was 14.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raising_of_school_leaving_age#Ireland

There is lots online if you search. Here are a few examples-
http://www.teachdontpreach.ie/2011/09/a-history-of-the-irish-education-system-2/
http://education.stateuniversity.com/pages/695/Ireland-EDUCATIONAL-SYSTEM-OVERVIEW.html
Aghadowey, Thanks for the information and lead. I will get to work on it now. I wasn't aware of the policy about look-ups but will bear that in mind for the future. So many thanks