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John Bysouth baptised 1762
« on: Friday 22 September 17 16:11 BST (UK) »
I am trying to verify a marriage of John Bysouth who was baptised in 1762 at Reed, Hertfordshire.
Several family trees show him married to Ann Parker (born Haydon Essex c1769) in 1793 at Reed (also found marriage on Family search database).
I have also found an entry on Ancestry .com for a marriage to Ann Wright on 7 June 1797 at Reed.
I cannot find any information about Ann Parker but I have found an Ann Parker who was baptised in Haydon Essex in 1772.
Can anyone help to verify if this is the same John Bysouth who married twice or 2 separate people.

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Re: John Bysouth baptised 1762
« Reply #1 on: Monday 25 September 17 06:21 BST (UK) »
Try the Hertfordshire Board for the marriages as familysearch and ancestry have transcriptions only
you need to find out if the other marriage to Ann Parker he was a widower or single.
There are several other families by that name in Reed who also could have had a son John.

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Re: John Bysouth baptised 1762
« Reply #2 on: Monday 25 September 17 10:27 BST (UK) »
Neither marriage record mentions John's status. Both Johns (if there were two) and both Anns were otp, but doesn't necessarily mean they were born in Reed
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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Re: John Bysouth baptised 1762
« Reply #3 on: Monday 25 September 17 11:14 BST (UK) »
1851 census for Reed has John Bysouth and wife Ann, both age 82, he was born Reed, she was born Haydon Essex. That would give year of birth abt 1769 for both of them.
1841 gives both ages as 70 but they would be rounded down to nearest age ending in 0 or 5. John born in Herts, Ann not born in county, so that is consistent with 1851.

John died later in 1851 age given as 83.

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There is burial in Reed of a John Bysouth on 5 Jan 1852 age 84, above was from GREO index death reg Q4 1851. Possibly died at very end of year but couldn't be buried for a few days - maybe ground frozen hard??
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott


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Re: John Bysouth baptised 1762
« Reply #4 on: Monday 25 September 17 11:30 BST (UK) »
Ann Bysouth buried 25 July 1853 age 87, which would give 1766 for year of birth, but obviously this is only as accurate as informant knows
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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Re: John Bysouth baptised 1762
« Reply #5 on: Monday 25 September 17 11:56 BST (UK) »

I cannot find any information about Ann Parker but I have found an Ann Parker who was baptised in Haydon Essex in 1772.
Can anyone help to verify if this is the same John Bysouth who married twice or 2 separate people.

Do you mean Ann WRIGHT bapt Heydon in 1772?
I can't find any Parker families in Heydon at relevant time.

If John married both Anns but the vicar had failed to record him as widower on 2nd marriage, there ought to be a burial for the 1st Ann between 1793 and 1797.
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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Re: John Bysouth baptised 1762
« Reply #6 on: Monday 25 September 17 16:16 BST (UK) »
My apologies. I did mean Ann Wright who was baptised in Haydon 1772.
Thank you for your help

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Re: John Bysouth baptised 1762
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 05 November 17 13:14 GMT (UK) »
All the Bysouths of Reed are all descended from the same family - some went under the name of South to add to the confusion. I am a descendant of John Bysouth and Ann Parker.

It has been a very long while since I looked at my Bysouth line and I know a lot more records have since gone online.

I think there were 4 or 5 John Bysouths living in Reed at one time so the lines can get easily confused.

I couldn't find any Parkers in Heydon - I may have the wrong wife in my tree!

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Re: John Bysouth baptised 1762
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 05 November 17 13:37 GMT (UK) »
I couldn't find Ann Parker in Heydon either but there was an Ann Wright who was baptised in 1772 & this I think is the one who is mentioned in the 1841 & 1851 census records, but did John marry twice as was earlier suspected.