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Re: Alice Maud Stephens
« Reply #9 on: Friday 22 September 17 22:30 BST (UK) »
Hi again that Mary S appears to marry an Albert Richard Sandford in 1889 Pontypridd daughter Sarah Letitia Sandford June qtr 1890 Pontypridd v11a page 489 mmn Best?

Census Ref RG12/4426/32/67
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Re: Alice Maud Stephens
« Reply #10 on: Friday 22 September 17 22:38 BST (UK) »
1901 Albert Richard is with a wife Sarah Letitia (b Llwynypia), daughter of James & Sarah Murray !

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Re: Alice Maud Stephens
« Reply #11 on: Friday 22 September 17 23:01 BST (UK) »
Oh lord this is confusing

James Murray marries Sarah Mary Best.

Albert Richard Sandford marries Mary Sarah Best

1891
James Murray    21 - b Cardiff
Sarah Murray    20 - b topsham
Winefred Mary Murray    3 Weeks


Albert Sandford    22
Mary Sandford    20
Sarah Lltita Sandford    1

1901
James Murray    51 b Cardiff
Sarah M Murray    50 - b Topsham
Daisy Murray    8 - daughter  (mmn Best)
Albt Rich Sandford    32 - son in law b Topsham
Sarah Letitia Sandford    31 - daughter b Llwynypia
William E Sandford    7 - grand son   (mmn Best)
Amy Sandford    5 - grand daughter   (mmn Best)
William Reed    30

Jsut wondering if this is a total mess, and James & Sarah M should be 31 and 30, Albert should be brother in law, sarah his daughter aged 11 and William & Amy also his children?

I'm guessing Mary Sarah left Albert & took up with Herbert stephens




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Re: Alice Maud Stephens
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 23 September 17 10:09 BST (UK) »
Thanks everyone this has certainly given me something to think about!!  I am looking this up for a friend and there appears to be some scandal in the family. I did wonder if Lee was a birth name. I'll continue to see what comes up, your ideas have definitely given me food for thought
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Re: Alice Maud Stephens
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 23 September 17 19:32 BST (UK) »
Just found out the connection with Lee, checked the marriage of George Best and Ann M on BMD and came up with a marriage in the Sept qtr of 1851; shows the name as Ann Marie LEY. This explains why Alice's mum used the name Lee.  They say families research can be tricky, it certainly is with this family.

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Re: Alice Maud Stephens
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 23 September 17 19:37 BST (UK) »
Thanks Mabel for putting me on the right path

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Re: Alice Maud Stephens
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 27 September 17 20:02 BST (UK) »
Although Alice Maud Stephen's birth certificate shows her father as Herbert Richard Stephens and her mother as Mary Sarah Stephens, nee Lee; they were never married. It appears that Mary Sarah Best AKA Lee, married Albert Richard Sandford in 1889 and had a daughter in 1890. However according to family she left Albert to live with Herbert Richard. No divorce is shown in GRO index and no marriage to Herbert- hence the scandal in the family.
Mary Sarah's father was George Best.
Mystery solved!!