Author Topic: William & Lucy Raby Lancaster 1900's  (Read 223 times)

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Re: William & Lucy Raby Lancaster 1900's
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 24 September 17 13:00 BST (UK) »
Marriage: 21 Nov 1871 St Oswald (formerly Holy Trinity), Warton nr Lancaster, Lancashire, England
William Raby - 22, Joiner, Bachelor, Lancaster
Emma Ashton - full, Spinster, Carnforth
Groom's Father: Thomas Raby, Cabinet maker
Bride's Father: Thomas Ashton, Labourer
Witness: Thomas Hoch?; Agnes Ashton
Married by Banns by: John Atkinson Fidler, Curate of Carnforth

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Re: William & Lucy Raby Lancaster 1900's
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 24 September 17 13:10 BST (UK) »
1901 Lucy is in the Asylum in Lancaster, Lancashire.
L A R, born c 1853, Leicester, Lincolnshire
Down as married, Joiners Wife.
(image of pob is Lincolnshire, Lincoln)


I just put in l a (iniials only), as christian name, no surname, born c 1852 +/- 2yrs, born Lincs, living in Lancashire.
She was the top entry that popped up.
 
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Re: William & Lucy Raby Lancaster 1900's
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 24 September 17 13:17 BST (UK) »
NAME:    Lucy A Raby
BIRTH:    abt 1849
DEATH:    Mar 1926 - Lancaster, Lancashire

Sorry just realised you had her death Marmalady.

Poor lady likely in the Asylum all those years.
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Re: William & Lucy Raby Lancaster 1900's
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 24 September 17 13:23 BST (UK) »
Have you ruled out the William Raby in 1911 who is married to Mary?
Same pob/occp.
Sorry heatherjulie just noticed you had quoted this.
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Re: William & Lucy Raby Lancaster 1900's
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 24 September 17 13:44 BST (UK) »
Thanks Trish

Poor Lucy indeed -- over 25 years in an asylum

Wainwright - Yorkshire
Whitney - Herefordshire
Watson -  Northamptonshire
Trant - Yorkshire
Helps - all
Needham - Derbyshire
Waterhouse - Derbyshire
Northing - all

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Re: William & Lucy Raby Lancaster 1900's
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 24 September 17 14:13 BST (UK) »
My gut tells  me that is William in 1911 Census.
He was not free to marry so may have just taken up with Mary and Thomas may be her Son.

Death Reg in Chorlton Reg District Dec 1820 for a William Raby age 72 which fits.
1911 that William above is living in that Reg District.
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Re: William & Lucy Raby Lancaster 1900's
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 24 September 17 14:21 BST (UK) »
William & Mary claim to have been married 16 years -- which would be 1895 -- so only a few months after he married Lucy
I can't find a suitable William & Mary marriage -- nor a birth of a Thomas Raby around 1895

So you may well be right, Trish

Did poor Lucy go into the asylum only months after her marriage or have William & Mary fudged their so-called marriage to fit Thomas's age?
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Whitney - Herefordshire
Watson -  Northamptonshire
Trant - Yorkshire
Helps - all
Needham - Derbyshire
Waterhouse - Derbyshire
Northing - all

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Re: William & Lucy Raby Lancaster 1900's
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 24 September 17 14:28 BST (UK) »
I think they fudged it as you say, only 1 child in 16 years of Marriage seems unlikely.

Image of Mary has Mary Jane and I think born Northumberland.
Looked for her and so called Son Thomas in 1901 with no surname, with no luck.

William was not with her in 1901 so I would say Thomas may just be her Son.
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