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Richard Gardner 1796 -1855
« on: Monday 25 September 17 17:50 BST (UK) »
I have this man on census records living in Poulton-le-Sands (1841 & 1851) and a burial record at Holy Trinity, Poulton le Sands on 7th February 1855. I am struggling to find the registration of this death, the nearest match being Richard Gardner Jan/March 1855 Ulverston 8e 506, aged 60 (from GRO index) I have ordered this cert (he was a fisherman/sailor so may have died aboard ship and landed at Ulverston hence the death being registered there) It was more usual for his family BMDs to be registered at Lancaster, hence my uncertainty.
Can anyone find an alternative death registration? I have tried surname variations (Garner, Garder, Gardiner & wild cards, also searched without a forename with no joy. Any help much appreciated.
TIA Christine
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Re: Richard Gardner 1796 -1855
« Reply #1 on: Monday 25 September 17 20:07 BST (UK) »
It is possible that the death wasn't registered. Although Civil Registration started in 1837 it was not made compulsory until about 1874.

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Re: Richard Gardner 1796 -1855
« Reply #2 on: Monday 25 September 17 21:59 BST (UK) »
emeltom, I suppose that is a possibility although his childrens' births 1837 onward were all registered & an infant death in 1844 so I would assume Richard's death would be too.
Newson, Steavenson, Walker, Taylor, Dobson, Gardner, Clark, Wilson, Smith, Crossland, Goldfinch, Burnett, Hebdon, Peers, Strother, Askew, Bower, Beckwith, Patton, White, Turner, Nelson, Gilpin, Tomlinson, Thompson, Spedding, Wilkes, Carr, Butterfield, Ormandy, Wilkinson, Cocking, Glover, Pennington, Bowker, Kitching, Langhorn, Haworth, Kirkham.

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Re: Richard Gardner 1796 -1855
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 26 September 17 10:43 BST (UK) »
If he went over board the chances are he would have been washed up along the coast hence registered as Ulverston then conveyed by his family back to Poulton,have you checked the local newspapers for a possible drowning
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Re: Richard Gardner 1796 -1855
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 26 September 17 10:50 BST (UK) »
this is interesting in our local church,
 you need to check this out
St Marys Dalton in Furness
29th April 1850
Richard Gardner
aged 50 years
abode Poulton Le Sands
Near Lancaster
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Re: Richard Gardner 1796 -1855
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 26 September 17 10:54 BST (UK) »
It is possible that the death wasn't registered. Although Civil Registration started in 1837 it was not made compulsory until about 1874.

Emeltom

This is incorrect, it was compulsory, but  the onus was on the Registrar to go out collect birth registrations prior to 1875, so quite few slipped through the net, after 1875 it was up to the parents or someone attending the birth to register, or there was a fine involved.

Marriages and deaths were a different matter, it is an exception to find a death going unregistered.
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COLE Gt. Oakley, & Lt. Oakley, Essex.
DUNCAN Kent
EVERITT Colchester,  Dovercourt & Harwich Essex
GULLIVER/GULLOFER Fifehead Magdalen Dorset
HORSCROFT Kent.
KING Sturminster Newton, Dorset. MONK Odiham Ham.
SCOTT Wrabness, Essex
WILKINS Stour Provost, Dorset.
WICKHAM All in North Essex.
WICKHAM Medway Towns, Kent from 1880
WICKHAM, Ipswich, Suffolk.

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Re: Richard Gardner 1796 -1855
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 26 September 17 10:55 BST (UK) »
The article I have found is to large to type
but you may find he drowned on route from Maryport back to Poulton following the herring,
boat Zephyrette February 1850 do a little  google search
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Re: Richard Gardner 1796 -1855
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 26 September 17 11:07 BST (UK) »
I am wondering as strange as it sounds if he drowned or was lost on the sands in 1850 and his body or remains may have been found in 55 it needs a bit of detective work this one because the article does state his boat went down in 1850 with no lives saved or bodies found
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Re: Richard Gardner 1796 -1855
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 26 September 17 11:19 BST (UK) »
Three Poulton fishermen drowned
On Wednesday week three Poulton fishing boats each manned by three men
left the harbour of Maryport,at the termination of the fishing season bound for Morcambe Bay
Owing to the heavy sea's ,however they put into the Duddon and remained there till Friday,On that day again they set sail to Poulton,one of the boats named Zephyrette containing Robery Baxter Richard Lupton and Richard Gardner took the lead,and sailed out of sight owing to the high winds rising the two boats took refuge in Piel Harbour,they arrived the next tide at Poulton and on hearing their comrades had not arrived they expressed their fears for their safety ,The result confirmed their speculation for on the following day the boat was found inbedded in the sand near Heysham It is supposed that it stuck on a sand bank  knows as Clarkes wharf point and imediatly filled,Robert Bxters cap drifted up on Sunday but no other traces of the bodies have been found
report Feb 23rd 1850 there are others
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