Joiner Stokes of Ramsey and Glatton

[FENBOY]

I am trying to trace details of Joiner Stokes' parents. Joiner was born circa 1774 in Glatton? and died 1862. Married in 1800 in Ramsey to Hannah Grounds and in 1823 to Ann Hoefield. My ancestor is his daughter Sarah Stokes 1814-1839 who married Ben Slote in Holme. Joiner is an odd name but I did find a Joiner Stokes boot repairer in Oundle who may be some connection. Thanks in advance for any help. 

[gc1]

Info:
1851 UK Census:

Joiner Stokes
Huntingdonshire, England
Age   77
Marital Status   Married
Occupation:   Labourer
Birth Year (Estimated)   1774
Birthplace   Glatton, Huntingdonshire

Joiner Stokes   Head   M   77   Glatton, Huntingdonshire
Ann Stokes   Wife   F   68   Fletton, Huntingdonshire


Edit:
Odd long shot but possible decedent

Birth Jun 1851
Joiner Stokes    Peterborough   15   380
Peterborough  is on the boundaries of the countie of Huntingdonshire

[KGarrad]

The National Archives search catalogue has this to say:

Paper Register, probably kept by the Parish Clerk.
Baptisms, 11th November 1764 to 14th October 1812

See: http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/94cfbd5a-d11a-4694-b887-651ec0186d80

May also be at Huntingdonshire Archives?


Doesn't look like it's online at all?
FamilySearch drew a blank!
FreeReg also drew a blank.

[FENBOY]

Thanks for the reply and help

[despair]

I notice from the GRO records that Joiner Stokes was given as aged 96 when he died,giving a birth of 1765/1766.Not near enough to make him the Joyner Stokes born 1760,Elton?

Regards
Roger

[despair]

It might be worth considering the following,using the available records:-

The Joiner Stokes you are interested in is the Joyner Stokes,born 1760 Elton,parents John and Elizabeth

He marries Susannah Ellis,Barnwell,Northants(close to Oundle) in 1785.Joyner given as of Chesterton,close to Elton
A witness at the wedding is Samuel Stokes.There is a Samuel born 1762, to John and Eliza making him Joyner's brother.

Joyner Stokes is born 1786 to Joyner and Susannah
This Joyner/Joiner marries Sarah Wright in 1808 and is seen in the 1841 census with his wife,having named his daughter Susannah after his mother.He is in the 1851 census(no wife present) and dies in 1854(Oundle).

Meanwhile Joyner/Joiner(senior) has further marriages as you have already alluded to-Hanna Grounds(1800) and Ann Hoefield(1823).He is in the 1841/51/61 censuses in Ramsey and dies in 1862.

Regards
Roger

[FENBOY]

Thank you Roger. Excellent help. I still have a Joiner Stokes born 1774 or 1776 in the 1841 and 1851 census. I can't see where he fits in though. It looks like they all fit in somewhere.

[despair]

I'm suggesting that the 1774,1776 dates are wrong.In 1861 he is given as born 1769,his death age gives a year of 1765/1766.Is it too much a stretch that he is the Joyner from the 1760 record(better make sure this is not a misread or mistranscription.The geography seems to largely fit.

Regards
Roger

[Galium]

Joiner Stokes and Ann in 1851 living in Ramsey are aged 77 and 68 respectively. 
Joiner is a labourer, born in Glatton.  Ann was born in Fletton.

In 1861 Joiner and Ann are still in Ramsey, now recorded as aged 92 and 79 respectively.
Joiner is a retired farmer, formerly [tractor? traction?] engine driver . His birthplace is Aldwincle, Northamptonshire. Ann's is still Fletton.

Despite the discrepancy in Joiner's details, this seems to  be the same couple.


When Joiner and Ann married, one of the witnesses was a Jemima Stokes (the other was named William Mitchell). 
Jemima does not seem to be one of Joiner's children. 
A Jemima Stokes, d/o William and Elizabeth born 13 May 1804 was baptised at Ramsey on 3 June 1804.
William and Elizabeth Stokes have several other children baptised at St Thomas a Beckett, including twins named Joiner and William, born 27 March 1813  (they both died the same year).

William and Elizabeth Stokes appear living in Ramsey in 1841 aged 60 and 65 respectively. William is a thatcher.  Neither were born in Huntingdonshire.

They are still there in 1851, now aged 71 and 77.  William is a pauper, formerly thatcher. His birthplace is in Northamptonshire.  Ancestry have it as 'Alnwick', and it does look rather like that, but there is no such place in Northamptonshire.  It could well be Aldwincle.