Frances A. Stevens/Stephens

[willsy]

I have been asked by my brother in law to look into the family and have drawn a blank at his granny. Their father was William Lambton Stephens born 1930 in Sunderland (now deceased), Frances was his mother as she was known to my husband and his brother; William her son was illegitimate.

I think I am on the right lines...

1939 register
Frances A. Stephens 11 Feb 1905

William is in a household with Hannah Coggins (deceased 1941) at 7 William Street, whilst Frances is numbered in the next household. Hannah's maiden name was Stevens/Stephens having married Thomas Coggins.

In the newspapers, I found an obituary for Hannah

Frances is listed as her niece and Billy...as we knew him...as nephew.
Jane...sister....a Jane Stephens was a witness at Hannah's marriage

I can't find a birth for Frances, nor can I find her 1911. I was hoping to have found her 1911 in order to at least establish her birthplace and find her parents as I have been assured she was born in Sunderland.

She had another son in 1943 and would then have a married name of Dunn but I can't find that marriage either.

Would appreciate any help/thoughts with finding Frances, this being the only name they know her as

Thank you

[CaroleW]

Have you tried researching Hannah in case Frances wasn't actually Frances or was using a middle name

Births June qtr 1892   
Hannah Garven Stevens     Sunderland    10a   711

MMN was Johnson

GRO online shows no match for a Frances Stevens mmn Johnson 1903-1907

[willsy]

I have and am so puzzled. Here's the family

1901
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XSCZ-44L

Jenny is Jane

1891
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:WNVQ-WW2

1881
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q271-J9N1

[CaroleW]

I would hazard a guess she was the illegitimate daughter of one of the older girls on the 1891 entry

[willsy]

That's what I wondered

[CaroleW]

She had another son in 1943 and would then have a married name of Dunn

Was that birth registered as Dunn as I can't see a Dunn/Stevens birth in 1943.  One in 1942 and another in 1944. 

[willsy]

It's Dunn MMN Stephens Sep 1943

[CaroleW]

Funnily - a James Dunn married an Eva Coggins in 1934 Sunderland

Does the 1943 birth cert show her as Frances Stephens or as Frances Dunn nee Stephens

[willsy]

I shall ask as I don't have any paperwork and the family is still up north.

Thanks for looking CaroleW, am going to call it a night and will check in tomorrow