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Harriot Ann HOMAN bn 1861 - missing from 1871 census onwards
« on: Thursday 28 September 17 21:48 BST (UK) »
Hello - hoping I'm posting in the correct place.  I would like some assistance please in locating some further information or some advice as to where best to look online for Harriot - I have searched for marriage/death registration with all sorts of forename/surname variants and the census' on from 1871 too but have had no luck.

Harriot Ann Homan - reg: Sep 1/4 1861 Romford, Essex

daughter of John Homan and Ellen

In the 1871 census for REG DIST: Richmond, Civil Parish Mortlake   870/80/29 is recorded as:

Hariot N Holman age 9 birthplace:  Rainham Essex

I did think she may have used her middle name Ann when she was older or possibly Hannah but have still not located her.  Any help appreciated.

Thanks



Richmond & Mortlake, Surrey, England:
HOMAN/BRADSHAW
Norfolk/Suffolk/Cambs/London/Essex/Surrey/Kent, England:
TITSHALL/GOOCH
Invercargill, New Zealand:
RICHMOND/MCARTHUR

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Re: Harriot Ann HOMAN bn 1861 - missing from 1871 census onwards
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 28 September 17 22:10 BST (UK) »
I can understand your difficulty :-\

Familysearch has the family as Holman in 1871:

Holman, John  Head  M  55  b Chingford, Essex
Holman, Ellen  Wife  F  44  b Richmond, Surrey
Holman, Tom J  Son  M  14  b Bamham, Essex
Holman, Hanor  Daughter  F  9  b Bamham
Holman, Fanny L  Daughter  F  6  b Mortlake, Surrey
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)

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Re: Harriot Ann HOMAN bn 1861 - missing from 1871 census onwards
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 28 September 17 22:19 BST (UK) »
I can see the rest of the family in 1881:
RG11/844/104/15
26 Castlegate, Richmond, Surrey

Homan, John  Head  M  67  b Epping Forest, Essex
Homan, Helen  Wife  F  57  Laundress  b Richmond, Surrey
Homan, Fanny Emily  Daughter  F  17  Laundrymaid  b Mortlake, Surrey
Herbert, Helen Jane  Granddaughter  F  7  Scholar  b Mortlake

Could be a clue there? ;D

EDIT:
Birth of Helen/Ellen from the GRO Index Search

HERBERT, ELLEN  JANE      (Mother's Maiden Name:) HOMAN      
GRO Reference: 1873  D Quarter in RICHMOND SUNEY  Volume 02A  Page 330
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)

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Re: Harriot Ann HOMAN bn 1861 - missing from 1871 census onwards
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 28 September 17 22:29 BST (UK) »
 ;D yes thanks for that - I have the Herbert marriage of Mary Homan and also her sister Kate to Thatcher and have looked at the census' of both of them to see if Harriot is anywhere near.

it's a bit of a mission finding this family as a whole due to the name; I can't locate John and Ellen and baby Mary at all in the 1851 census so I moved on to the individuals - the 1861:

Reg Dist: Romford, Essex Civil Parish Rainham 1072/104/8 - this family's children are 1st cousins to my ancester's family -
Richmond & Mortlake, Surrey, England:
HOMAN/BRADSHAW
Norfolk/Suffolk/Cambs/London/Essex/Surrey/Kent, England:
TITSHALL/GOOCH
Invercargill, New Zealand:
RICHMOND/MCARTHUR

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Re: Harriot Ann HOMAN bn 1861 - missing from 1871 census onwards
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 28 September 17 22:34 BST (UK) »
I'm not seeing an obvious marriage, but there is this death possibility:

June qtr 1879
St Olave Registration District     vol 1d, page 123

Herbert, Harriet     age 18
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)

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Re: Harriot Ann HOMAN bn 1861 - missing from 1871 census onwards
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 28 September 17 22:39 BST (UK) »
Thanks for your help with this KGarrad - unsure why she would be a Herbert but a possibility if she had gone to live with her sister - Mary Herbert and her family in 1881 was living in Brentdord, Mddx

What I do have as possibles for the 1881 census:
822/123/19 Reg Dist Croyden
Annie Martin 20/1861 bn Woodford, Essex

and

624/91/17 Reg Dist Lambeth
Annie Hammond 20/1861 bn Rumford, Essex

update 29-Sep: been to the library to view the originals of both the above and both surnames clearly written, thus transcribed correctly.

Richmond & Mortlake, Surrey, England:
HOMAN/BRADSHAW
Norfolk/Suffolk/Cambs/London/Essex/Surrey/Kent, England:
TITSHALL/GOOCH
Invercargill, New Zealand:
RICHMOND/MCARTHUR

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Re: Harriot Ann HOMAN bn 1861 - missing from 1871 census onwards
« Reply #6 on: Monday 04 December 17 06:42 GMT (UK) »
The parents John and Ellen(Helen) had a daughter Kate Eliza born 1847 Richmond, bap Mortlake- St Mary
26 September 1847 of John and Helen Homan of Mortlake, bricklayer, buried 1851 age 3, Richmond registration district.

Still haven't found them 1851

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Re: Harriot Ann HOMAN bn 1861 - missing from 1871 census onwards
« Reply #7 on: Monday 04 December 17 07:37 GMT (UK) »
There is a Harriet Annie Homan who marries either John Stapley or John Ganney 1881 Richmond Surrey registration district.(oct, nov, dec quarter)

Burial same quarter 1881 Harriet Annie Ganney age 20.

St Mary Magdalene Richmond Surrey buried 10 December 1881 age 20 of Castle Gate, Mortlake Road
Harriet Annie Ganney Ref image on ancestry.

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Re: Harriot Ann HOMAN bn 1861 - missing from 1871 census onwards
« Reply #8 on: Monday 04 December 17 11:30 GMT (UK) »
Hello  'amondg'

thank you very much for that information about Harriot Homan - very very much appreciated - I can believe it's her married to John Ganney - and if so, very sad she died so soon after.

I know I did concentrate on the census a bit much in my search for her [I've created a census spreadsheet for all our Homan's - three researchers - three family lines] and overlooked searching the civil records in ?haste.  I'll be able to let Harriot's family?niece know.

regards Karrienz.
Richmond & Mortlake, Surrey, England:
HOMAN/BRADSHAW
Norfolk/Suffolk/Cambs/London/Essex/Surrey/Kent, England:
TITSHALL/GOOCH
Invercargill, New Zealand:
RICHMOND/MCARTHUR