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Help with a relative from Wigtownshire? I'm brickwalled.
« on: Friday 29 September 17 15:55 BST (UK) »
Hey everyone,

I'm getting pretty stuck tracing my line back into Scotland. So far I've found that I am descended from James Muir Wilson, who was born on the 6th of March, 1843 in Wigtownshire, Scotland, to John Wilson and Margaret Muir - John and Margaret were married at the time... Muir is Margaret's maiden name. James Muir Wilson did also move to Liverpool, so I can't tell either if his parents moved with him or died in Scotland.

I can't find anything on where John Wilson and Margaret Muir, the parents of James Muir Wilson, were born or in what year. James also had a sister, Margaret Muir Wilson, born in Old Luce in 1845. The closest detail I've found is that they were married in February of 1843, just a month before their son was born, at Old Luce parish in Wigtown.

In February 1868, however, James Muir Wilson did marry a Mary Bann in St. Phillips church in Liverpool.

One detail - I can't find any marriage info for John and Margaret for Feb 1843, but I found it in a google search, which turned up a transcribed version of the local newspaper, showing a John Wilson and Margaret Muir getting married by the same minister who baptized their baby a month later. So this marriage info I have, about them getting married in 1843, has no family info or etc, just the names and the date of marriage. I cannot find the corresponding document for the life of me in parish records.

So, again, what I am really looking for is help tracing James parents, John Wilson and Margaret Muir, back further. Particularly on the Wilson side as I am trying to establish some clan information for my father, but I am wildly interested in Muir as well!

Thanks so much in advance!

Does anyone have any input? I've been stuck here for quite awhile.

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Re: Help with a relative from Wigtownshire? I'm brickwalled.
« Reply #1 on: Friday 29 September 17 16:45 BST (UK) »
Hi,
How near are you to Scotland?
Maggsie

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Re: Help with a relative from Wigtownshire? I'm brickwalled.
« Reply #2 on: Friday 29 September 17 17:05 BST (UK) »
Hi , and Welcome  :)

Adding this as it might mean something later on -
1841 Census transcription(FreeCEN)
Gennoch Cothouse , Old Luce , Wigtownshire.
John Wilson 15 gardener apprentice born Outside Census County
Margaret Muir 20 dressmaker b. Wigtownshire

Ages maybe rounded down  :-\


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Re: Help with a relative from Wigtownshire? I'm brickwalled.
« Reply #3 on: Friday 29 September 17 17:09 BST (UK) »
How on earth did you find that?!?!

Maybe I'm too new for this, but I have been searching a lot for info on them... I didn't think Scotland did censuses prior to 1855?

Regardless, thank you!

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Re: Help with a relative from Wigtownshire? I'm brickwalled.
« Reply #4 on: Friday 29 September 17 17:09 BST (UK) »
Hi! I live in the United States, so pretty far :/

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Re: Help with a relative from Wigtownshire? I'm brickwalled.
« Reply #5 on: Friday 29 September 17 17:18 BST (UK) »
https://www.freecen.org.uk/
https://www.freecen.org.uk/statistics.html

Offical records for BMD's started in 1855(Scotland)



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« Reply #6 on: Friday 29 September 17 17:40 BST (UK) »
That was part of my question - so censuses were earlier but BMD was 1855 and on?

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« Reply #7 on: Friday 29 September 17 17:57 BST (UK) »
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so censuses were earlier but BMD was 1855 and on?

Yes , the first national Census was 1841.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=24468.0


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Re: Help with a relative from Wigtownshire? I'm brickwalled.
« Reply #8 on: Friday 29 September 17 17:59 BST (UK) »
Another thought, I can't seem to find an original copy of that census. Where do you typically look for them?