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35 LTAA Regt RA
« on: Saturday 30 September 17 14:56 BST (UK) »
Looking for info on 89 Baty. 35 light AA regt RA 1939 -43.
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Re: 35 LTAA Regt RA
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 30 September 17 16:05 BST (UK) »
If you are looking for war diaries:

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/british-army-operations-second-world-war/

Service records for personnel are still with the MOD;  you can apply for a copy which costs 30.
Howard , Viney , Kingsman, Pain/e, Rainer/ Rayner, Barham, George, Wakeling (Catherine), Vicary (Frederick)   all LDN area/suburbs  Ottley/ MDX,
Henman/ KNT   Gandy/LDN before 1830  Burgess/LDN
Barham/SFK   Rainer/CAN (Toronto) Gillians/CAN  Sturgeon/CAN (Vancouver)
Bailey/LDN Page/KNT   Paling/WA (var)



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Re: 35 LTAA Regt RA
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 30 September 17 16:08 BST (UK) »
Brief history here https://web.archive.org/web/20160331000328/http://www.ra39-45.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/laa/page29.html

For the period 39-43 for 35 LAA Regt at the National Archives.  Select relevant dates from these
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/advanced-search?_aq=35%20Light%20anti%20aircraft%20regiment&_nq1=engineers&_nq2=special&_nq3=surrey&_dss=range&_sd=1939&_ed=1943&_ro=any&_st=adv

Includes some Part Two Orders for 89 Battery.  89 Battery on its own does not seem to have a war diary (quite usual)

All these require a visit to Kew or copying.

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Re: 35 LTAA Regt RA
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 30 September 17 16:32 BST (UK) »
Nanny jan and MaxD thank you.....just wondering , do you have to be a close relative to apply for personnel records from WW 2 ?
 MaxD what are part two orders ?
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Re: 35 LTAA Regt RA
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 30 September 17 16:44 BST (UK) »
If you do not qualify as next of kin (in the MOD info sheet) then you need to get permission from next of kin  to apply for the full record (personal details). If not you get the basic record.

I've just applied for the record of my mum's first husband (short marriage as he died 1947); I can only get the basic as not next of kin and have been unable to find any to get permission. Think I have most of his background anyway.
Howard , Viney , Kingsman, Pain/e, Rainer/ Rayner, Barham, George, Wakeling (Catherine), Vicary (Frederick)   all LDN area/suburbs  Ottley/ MDX,
Henman/ KNT   Gandy/LDN before 1830  Burgess/LDN
Barham/SFK   Rainer/CAN (Toronto) Gillians/CAN  Sturgeon/CAN (Vancouver)
Bailey/LDN Page/KNT   Paling/WA (var)



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Re: 35 LTAA Regt RA
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 30 September 17 17:31 BST (UK) »
Nanny jan .thanks .what info is given on short record ?
 
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Re: 35 LTAA Regt RA
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 30 September 17 17:36 BST (UK) »
Just looked at link provided by MaxD .interesting !
 Anyone know if sumatra and or Java were known as or included in Dutch east Indies in the 1940s ??
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Re: 35 LTAA Regt RA
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 30 September 17 17:54 BST (UK) »
Part two orders are rarely found in the records because they are very low down in the hierarchy of orders produced by the many levels of the army..  They are administrative records produced by the unit itself recording the movements in and out of personnel on posting and attachment, promotions, hospital and so on.  Each entry relates to an individual of the unit and thus, where a war diary rarely mentions a soldier by name, Pt2Os always name individuals and the occurrence that gives rise to the entry. 
My earlier link was not good, (rushing a bit!).  The Pt2O record is at:
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C11603440 although I've just noticed it refers to 1945.

Other records are at:

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/results/r?_aq=35%20Light%20anti%20aircraft%20regiment&_nq1=searchlight&_nq2=171&_nq3=sussex&_dss=range&_sd=1939&_ed=1943&_ro=any&_p=1925&_st=adv

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C11604064

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C11483489

Regarding not next of kin - the guidance says that someone without nok permission can, if the person died more than 25 years ago, get rather more than the basic facts, see
 http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/results/r?_aq=35%20Light%20anti%20aircraft%20regiment&_nq1=searchlight&_nq2=171&_nq3=sussex&_dss=range&_sd=1939&_ed=1943&_ro=any&_p=1925&_st=adv
  Modified, see next post
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Re: 35 LTAA Regt RA
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 30 September 17 17:55 BST (UK) »
Sumatra and Java - yes.

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