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Mary Elizabeth Wilford - Liverpool
« on: Saturday 30 September 17 18:56 BST (UK) »
Looking for any assistance in finding this lady further back than October 1911:

She married in October 1911 at Our Lady of Reconciliation, Eldon Street Liverpool.
She gave her fathers name as John Wilford [deceased] a Dock Labourer.
She was a Spinster and gave her age as 24 years, living in the courts in Burlington Street, Liverpool.
She died in 1956 at a given age of 68 [@1888].
She appears on the 1939 Register with a birthday of the 30th November 1899, however in very faint text is the year 89 or possibly 87.
Her first child is born in 1912 so she cannot have been born in 1899.
I don't see her on any census, or on the GRO index for around the birth of 1887/1888

If anyone can point me to another source, I'd be glad to take up the chase again.

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Re: Mary Elizabeth Wilford - Liverpool
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 30 September 17 19:30 BST (UK) »
There is a 1901 census
Shows
Father John 44 yrs Labouring
Mother Alice 43yrs
Brother John W 15yrs
Mary E 7yrs
Sister Ada 5yrs
Brother Percy 2yrs
@ Streethouse, Yorkshire

She could have married at a young age!!!


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Re: Mary Elizabeth Wilford - Liverpool
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 30 September 17 19:58 BST (UK) »
GRO has births
Mary Elizabeth Wilford registered in 1897  Barnsley Union mother's maiden name  holden
1897 Wigan mmn Moore
1896 Wigan mmn Moore
1896 Mansfield mmn Oliver

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Re: Mary Elizabeth Wilford - Liverpool
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 01 October 17 09:30 BST (UK) »
Thank you for the replies Richard & Heatherjulie,

I've followed through the entries you found Heatherjulie & I can track their subsequent marriages & deaths.
Richard your census entry I found, but not finding her in 1911 making that connection is going to be difficult.
But thank both for your help.


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Re: Mary Elizabeth Wilford - Liverpool
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 01 October 17 09:44 BST (UK) »
Could you give the names of her children, to see if there are any possible family connections?
(I cannot see a Coyle/Wilford birth in 1912)

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Re: Mary Elizabeth Wilford - Liverpool
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 01 October 17 12:17 BST (UK) »
Sure chempat

John [1912, miss indexed under Mulford], Mary [1915], Dora [1918] James [1920] & Alice Bridget [1922] all names are present in the Grooms family except Bridget. I wonder if Mary Elizabeth came from Ireland, after 1901

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Re: Mary Elizabeth Wilford - Liverpool
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 01 October 17 13:45 BST (UK) »
It was that 1912 (John) that I could not see.

I wondered about Ireland, but could not see in 1901, and was expecting to see her in Liverpool in 1911, unless she arrived from Ireland and married within a few months (which is not impossible).

Also, not many females called Wilford in Irish censuses.

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Re: Mary Elizabeth Wilford - Liverpool
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 01 October 17 14:07 BST (UK) »
Thanks Chempat ;)

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Re: Mary Elizabeth Wilford - Liverpool
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 01 October 17 14:33 BST (UK) »
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From GRO:
Mary Elizabeth Willford  mmn Fredernick  December quarter 1887 in Burnley  Vol 8E  Page 246