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Offline carol46

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1901 census
« on: Sunday 01 October 17 15:48 BST (UK) »
Look up for a Percy Gurney born Luton 1893. Thankyou.
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Re: 1901 census
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 01 October 17 15:53 BST (UK) »
Possible him  ???

Percy Gurney
Census   31 Mar 1901
Event Place   Luton Urban, Bedfordshire, England
County   Bedfordshire
Civil Parish   Luton Urban
Ecclesiastical Parish   St Matthews
Sub-District   Luton
Registration District   Luton
Residence Note   Hitchin Road
Gender   Male
Age   8
Relationship to Head of Household   Boarder
Birth Year (Estimated)   1893
Birthplace   Luton, Bedfordshire

Full Census
William Clark   Head   M   24   Caddington, Bedfordshire
Alice Maud Clark   Wife   F   24   Luton, Bedfordshire
Nellie Maud Clark   Daughter   F   3   Luton, Bedfordshire
Herbert Gurney   Boarder   M   13   Luton, Bedfordshire
Thomas Gurney   Boarder   M   10   Luton, Bedfordshire
Percy Gurney   Boarder   M   8   Luton, Bedfordshire
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Re: 1901 census
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 01 October 17 15:54 BST (UK) »
RG13; Piece: 1518; Folio: 25; Page: 2
73 Hitchin Rd
William Clark   24
Alice Manes Clark   24
Nellie Mana Clark   3
Heabert Garney   13
Thomas Garney   10
Percy Garney   8
all born Luton
SNAP gc1!!

But next door @ 75 Hitchin Rd
Tom Gurney   32 straw hat manufacturer
Emily Gurney   30
Emily Rose Gurney   9
Frederick George Gurney   6
Lizzie Gurney   2
All born Luton

Josey

Seeking: baptism Philip Murray 1813 nr Chatham Kent, death Ralph James Dunn b 1808 1861 - 1868 in Newington 1861
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Nova Scotia [Halifax, Pictou]: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON

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Re: 1901 census
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 01 October 17 15:56 BST (UK) »
Marriage from freebmd
Marriages Dec 1889 
Gurney    Thomas        Luton    3b   931    
Punter    Emily        Luton    3b   931   
Robinson    Emily        Luton    3b   931    
Stanbridge    William        Luton    3b   931    
Walker    Sarah Ann        Luton    3b   931    
maybe Emily had been married before or was known by the other name.

Percy's birth
GURNEY, PERCY       Mother's maiden name PUNTER     
GRO Reference: 1893  M Quarter in LUTON  Volume 03B  Page 418

Thomas aged 10 in 1901 is Emily's
GURNEY, THOMAS       PUNTER     
GRO Reference: 1890  J Quarter in LUTON  Volume 03B  Page 416
but Herbert aged 13 may not be [no birth with MMN Punter].

ADDED: Luton News & Bedfordshire Chronicle 13 Sep 1917
'Much sympathy will be felt for Mr Gurney, straw hat manufacturer, at 48 Hartley Rd on the death of his son Pte Percy Gurney who was killed in action on 16 Aug in the fighting around Ypres. He was an old scholar of Hitchin Rd & Waller Rd School.........It is very sad that on 28 Apr Mr Gurney's other son, Pte Frederick Gurney, was killed at the age of [looks like] 29.' See below aged must have been 18.

GURNEY, FREDERICK  GEORGE     PUNTER     
GRO Reference: 1895  M Quarter in LUTON  Volume 03B  Page 424

So just to commemorate these 2 lads in the 100th anniversary year of their deaths:
GURNEY
Private
32223
FREDERICK G.
Saturday, April 28, 1917
ARRAS MEMORIAL
Bedfordshire Regiment

GURNEY
Private
40387
PERCY
Thursday, August 16, 1917
Age 24
TYNE COT MEMORIAL
Northamptonshire Regiment
Seeking: baptism Philip Murray 1813 nr Chatham Kent, death Ralph James Dunn b 1808 1861 - 1868 in Newington 1861
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Nova Scotia [Halifax, Pictou]: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON

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Re: 1901 census
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 01 October 17 16:40 BST (UK) »
Thankyou. Do you know if the father Thomas was born in Luton and who his parents were? As im trying to link them to some other Gurneys from Luton. Originally from Potton and Biggleswade. Thanks.
wilkins,moors,cooper,palmer,nix,rawlins,aries/aris,haddocks,coxhead (oxfordshire)
clasby,brooker,bartlett,snelgrove,harfield,
goddard,taylor,evans(hampshire)
moss,sanders,
childs(bedfordshire/Northamptonshire)
boswell(london)
Brimley(London,Bedfordshire)

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Re: 1901 census
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 01 October 17 16:46 BST (UK) »
Thomas born in Luton according to 1901 census.

Possibly
this is him in 1881
RG11; Piece: 1648; Folio: 20; Page: 34 197 Park Rd
Stephen Gurney   36 engine drive steam ?? mill
Maria Gurney   35 sewer straw hat
Elizabeth Gurney   15 sewer straw hat
Thomas Gurney   12
Mary Ann Gurney   8
Harry Gurney   5
Emily Gurney   2
Agnes Anderson   22
All born Luton

Possibly this marriage
Marriages Dec 1865 
Anderson    Maria        Luton    3b   1007    
Gurney    Stephen        Luton    3b   1007    

Holland    Benjamin        Luton    3b   1007    
Muggleton    Charlotte        Luton    3b   1007    

but I can't find a Thomas birth with MMN Anderson - perhaps she had been married before although a bit young for that?

ADDED:
Same family in 1871 RG10; Piece: 1569; Folio: 15; Page: 22
Stephen Gurney   28
Maria Gurney   24
Lizzy Gurney   4
Thomas Gurney   2
Rose Gurney   2 Months

Ah it's registered as Tom
GURNEY, TOM       ANDERSON     
GRO Reference: 1869  J Quarter in LUTON  Volume 03B  Page 403

Seeking: baptism Philip Murray 1813 nr Chatham Kent, death Ralph James Dunn b 1808 1861 - 1868 in Newington 1861
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Nova Scotia [Halifax, Pictou]: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON

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Re: 1901 census
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 01 October 17 17:08 BST (UK) »
Possible Steven in 1861 RG 9; Piece: 1014; Folio: 95; Page: 16 Burr Street Luton
Charles Allen   24
Elizabeth Allen   22
Stephen Gurney   18 lodger unmarried army Beds Militia labourer b Aylesbury

& 1851  HO107; Piece: 1721; Folio: 295; Page: 12 Buckingham Rd, Aylesbury
Ann Gurney   40 wid dress maker
Steven Gurney 7
Emma Gurney   9
Sarah A Gurney   5
George Gurney   2
all born Aylesbury

Possible birth
GURNEY, STEPHEN       HATHAWAY     
GRO Reference: 1843  J Quarter in AYLESBURY  Volume 06  Page 322

This would all need confirmation with birth, marriage certificates and/or baptisms - starting with Tom's marriage to Emily to prove father's name.

Seeking: baptism Philip Murray 1813 nr Chatham Kent, death Ralph James Dunn b 1808 1861 - 1868 in Newington 1861
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Nova Scotia [Halifax, Pictou]: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON

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Re: 1901 census
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 01 October 17 17:21 BST (UK) »
Familysearch has this

Name   Thomas Gurney
Birth Date   1869
Age   20
Spouse's Name   Emily Punter
Spouse's Birth Date   1869
Spouse's Age   20
Event Date   24 Dec 1889
Event Place   Luton, Bedford, England
Father's Name   Stephen Gurney
Spouse's Father's Name   Joseph Punter

ADDED: Steven MAY have been married twice
Name:   Stephen Gurney
Gender:   Male
Age:   19
Birth Date:   1844
Marriage Date:   10 Mar 1863
Marriage Place:   Saint Mary,Luton,Bedford,England
Spouse:   Susan Abrahams
FHL Film Number:   952393, 952394, 952395

Death GURNEY, SUSAN       Age 26     
GRO Reference: 1864  D Quarter in LUTON  Volume 03B  Page 319
Seeking: baptism Philip Murray 1813 nr Chatham Kent, death Ralph James Dunn b 1808 1861 - 1868 in Newington 1861
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Nova Scotia [Halifax, Pictou]: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON

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Re: 1901 census
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 01 October 17 17:30 BST (UK) »
For info.
Percy Gurney Birth Place:   Luton, Beds
Death Date:   16 Aug 1917
Death Place:   France and Flanders
Enlistment Place:   Luton
Rank:   Private
Regiment:   Northamptonshire Regiment
Battalion:   2nd Battalion
Regimental Number:   40387
Type of Casualty:   Killed in action
Theatre of War:   Western European Theatre
Comments:   Formerly 35614, Essex Regt

Private Percy Gurney son of Tom & Emily died 16 Aug 1917
https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=11948841&ref=acom

UK, Army Registers of Soldiers' Effects, 1901-1929
Percy Gurney
Death Date:   16 Aug 1917
Death Place:   Belgium
Rank:   Private
Regiment:   Northamptonshire Regiment
Regimental Number:   40387
Fa. Thomas

Percy with parents Thomas & Emily plus siblings
1911c https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X7KS-P93