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1831 Baptism at Chares the Matyr Plymouth
« on: Wednesday 04 October 17 10:00 BST (UK) »
Louisa Yalland was baptised at Charles the Martyr in 1831.Father Emanuel. Can anyone flesh out some more detail of this baptism please

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Re: 1831 Baptism at Chares the Matyr Plymouth
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 04 October 17 10:17 BST (UK) »
Baptised August 30 1840 but born Sept 1831.
Mother was also Louisa. Emmanuel was a mariner.

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PS - living Exeter Street, which is not far from  Charles Church.

https://tinyurl.com/ybqshnpd

PS2 - I lived in Plymouth for over 20 years and drove around the roundabout, which now surrounds the remains of the church, nearly every day as I worked not far away.
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Re: 1831 Baptism at Chares the Matyr Plymouth
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 04 October 17 12:51 BST (UK) »
Thanks Gadget. Emmanuel's job helps explain his elusiveness.

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Re: 1831 Baptism at Chares the Matyr Plymouth
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 04 October 17 13:29 BST (UK) »
Very puzzling:

1841
Exeter Street, Plymouth
HO108/271/6/11/17
William Yalland, 35, painter
John, 25, painter
Eliza, 35
Alice, 30
Sarah, 25
Amelia, 20
Amelia, 10
Louisa, 9   -  fits with birth in baptism entry
All born Devon

Also 1851
HO108/1878/225/45
Same Address
William, 48 painter and glazier
Mary A, wife, 46, b. Middlesex
Kate, daughter, 5
John, brother, 36, painter and glazier
Eliza, sister, 51, seamstress
Alice, sister, 45, upholsterer
Amelia, daughter, 19, seamstress
Amelia,  sister to wife, 36, staymaker
Louisa, niece to wife, 18 seamstress
All others born Plymouth

Do you have any other info on the family?

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Re: 1831 Baptism at Chares the Matyr Plymouth
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 04 October 17 13:45 BST (UK) »
I see that you have had some info on this family before:

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=619262.0

However I see  on there that Louisa's relationship to William was given slightly wrongly on the 1851 that the member gave - she is down as niece* to wife and not niece.

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* niece to 'do'  = wife from above entry
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Re: 1831 Baptism at Charles the Martyr Plymouth
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 04 October 17 19:54 BST (UK) »
Yes finally putting them in my tree. Would you interpret it as Amila Jnr being Alice's Daughter and Louisa being Amila Senior's daughter?
This then leads to the can of worms ; did this Louisa marry Jabez Scagell or live life as a Spinster?
We have the advantage in NZ that maintenance cases got reported in the News Papers which are now free to view at our Papers Past. Go National Library ;D

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Re: 1831 Baptism at Chares the Matyr Plymouth
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 04 October 17 20:24 BST (UK) »
I think it is very possible that Amelia (sister to Mary A) is Louisa's mother but ...  :-\

Could you risk getting the marriage cert for Louisa and Jabez?  It should give her father - or who she thought was her father. I tried to find the marriage but must have been a civil one as nothing showing in Devon parish records.

It seems like a very mixed up family and comng in to it at the end, I'd need to work it through.

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Re: 1831 Baptism at Chares the Matyr Plymouth
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 04 October 17 20:44 BST (UK) »
Amelia Senior is a sister to the lot of them not a sister in law. Unless their Amelia died  or married and Mary A had a sister called Amelia as well who also married a Yealand. Mind you they are most consistently Yalland. Or Mary A from Middlesex was nee Yealand.

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Re: 1831 Baptism at Chares the Matyr Plymouth
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 04 October 17 21:04 BST (UK) »
On the 1851, Amelia is down as 'sister to wife' - see clip. 
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