re joseph a murphy brick wall

[Milliepede]

Could you give us some details from the marriage certificate please?

His fathers occupation would be very useful to cross check with census.

If he is a mason or stone mason that would be good!

Sister Jane I think marries in 1899 and her father is William Murphy deceased stone mason.
This ties in with the 1891 census where mother Margaret is a widow.  IF that is the right family.

[John Mace]

onlly info is father labourer

[Milliepede]

Oh that's disappointing.  Can you give us the names of the witnesses please?

[John Mace]

witnesses at wedding were george salmon and ellen adams at a church in victoria docks canning town

[rosie99]

Just for information the GRO marriage index does not give a middle name for Joseph.
Marriage June qtr 1896   
Harris    Amelia
Murphy    Joseph       
W. Ham    4a   218

Do the childrens birth certificates name him as Joseph Arthur Murphy.

[Ladyhawk]

,looking for my information on my great grandfather

joseph Arthur murphy born 1872 died 1936 West Ham .

birth believed to be bootle or  st helens put down as west ham

he was married to amelia harris.

his birth i think was wrongly put down as west ham,essex on censuses
his ww1 record does say different,his father on the wedding certificate is william here

Hello and welcome to Rootschat

Do you have his Army record ?
Does it give his middle name as Arthur?
Which Regt. did he serve with ?
What place of birth & address did he give?
What age was he when he enlisted?
Who was named as his next of kin?

for info. and others looking I have added a link to the
1911/1901 census for Jospeh & Amelia

Joseph born c1876 and family
1911 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWFS-9GM
1901 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X9NH-251

here are the birth registrations for their children from GRO indexes showing mmn HARRIS
possible that they named they children after their parents/siblings

MURPHY, LILY  ELIZA  mmn Harris
1897  S Quarter in WEST HAM  Volume 04A  Page 115

MURPHY, SARAH  AMELIA  mmn Harris 
1897  S Quarter in WEST HAM  Volume 04A  Page 115

MURPHY, WILLIAM  HENRY  mmn HARRIS
1899  M Quarter in WEST HAM  Volume 04A  Page 111

MURPHY, JOSEPH  ARTHUR  mmn HARRIS     
 1900  S Quarter in WEST HAM  Volume 04A  Page 47

MURPHY, THOMAS  PHILIP  mmn   HARRIS     
1902  D Quarter in WEST HAM  Volume 04A  Page 60

MURPHY, CHARLES  WILLIAM  mmn   HARRIS     
1904  S Quarter in WEST HAM  Volume 04A  Page 110

MURPHY, JANE   mmn    HARRIS     
1906  J Quarter in WEST HAM  Volume 04A  Page 105

MURPHY, LEONARD mmn    HARRIS     
1909  M Quarter in WEST HAM  Volume 04A  Page 77

What were the names of Joseph's wife Amelia's parents?

[rosie99]

Is this his death registration 
Death Dec qtr 1936 
Joseph Murphy   age 62   
Essex S.W.    4a   218

Thanks for the census links Ladyhawk 

[John Mace]

the middle initial a is from a bible entry, i have the death certificate and marriage name is joseph  he was listed as a crane driver on death cert

[Ladyhawk]

Ok found his Army Record dated 21 6 1915 - no middle name - he joined The Royal Dublin Fusiliers

Joseph Murphy age 39 (1876) Canning Town Essex occ Labourer
Regt. No. 20180 Corps R Dublin Fus.
48 Stephenson Street
Wife Amelia nee Harris
Children
Joseph Arthur
Thomas Philip
Charles William
Jane
Leonard
George Edward
Philip James
Sarah Amelia
William Harry

Edit ~ Do you think it's possible he was born in Ireland?

Medical History give birth place...... Parish St Helen's county Lancs