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Bridget loughin/loughlin (need hannerty)
« on: Wednesday 04 October 17 14:48 BST (UK) »
Hello. This is my mystery great grandmother and all I can find on her is travel records. I have been looking into her off and on for many years but keep getting defeated so give up

The information that I have is:

Born 5 June 1907 unsure where
Married Arthur Loughlin/in in 19?? .Arthur was transfered to Canada by the empire settlement act so they may if met there.

3 children born in 1934, 1937 and 1942

They lived in Ballyshanaghill

She travelled to the UK twice to and from Montreal in 1948 and 1958. I believe one of her sons moved to Canada.

The majority of this information is from the travel records I have found. I can't find any birth, marriage or death records. Any help will be truly appreciated.

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Re: Bridget loughin/loughlin (need hannerty)
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 04 October 17 15:03 BST (UK) »
You can try Census using Wildcards for various spellings... http://www.rootschat.com/links/01ku2/
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Re: Bridget loughin/loughlin (need hannerty)
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 04 October 17 18:26 BST (UK) »
I have tried that but I can't find anything that would confirm it's her. I've looked on the Irish and English sites at census but she isn't there. Not even a birth record

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Re: Bridget loughin/loughlin (need hannerty)
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 05 October 17 08:44 BST (UK) »
You've other threads already looking for details of this couple-
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=642755.0
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,642567.0.html

However, if you had searched GRONI's database as suggested in 2013 you would have see the marriage for an Arthur Loughlin on 5 June 1932 Belfast registration district to a Bridget Martin. Suggest you register (if you haven't done so already) and purchase a few credits to view that certificate.
It may be a completely different couple but it's equally possible that it is the couple you are looking for.

Not sure where you got the exact birthdate of 5 June 1907 from but searching for 'Bridget' by that date cones up with-
Bridget Connolly    https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1907/01702/1674988.pdf
Bridget Philipps https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1907/01688/1670951.pdf
Bridget Fagan https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1907/01685/1669825.pdf
Bridget Murphy https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1907/01692/1671875.pdf
... (you can search Irish Genealogy births to see all results). However, it's possible the date and/or year are incorrect.
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Re: Bridget loughin/loughlin (need hannerty)
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 05 October 17 16:51 BST (UK) »
Yes I have had a few posts over the years...like I mentioned on my post.

The MC that was mentioned in 2013 I have already looked at that - like it was suggested all them years ago. It's not the right couple as the ages that got married don't match with the birth year.

I can assure you you I have looked at all the sites that I can find and tried many possibilities of the surnames. This is why I have posted here again as I can't find birth, marriage and death records  on this woman

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Re: Bridget loughin/loughlin (need hannerty)
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 05 October 17 17:58 BST (UK) »
No need to start a new topic- just add any more details to the existing one to prevent duplication and confusion. I didn't see anywhere in the original post here that you've several previous topics but if for some good reason you do need to start a new one it is helpful to include a link to previous topic(s) so we can see what's already been mentioned.

From what I can see, the marriage (posted 2013) was possibly Arthur's father- not the marriage of Arthur and Bridget. Have you already viewed the 1932 marriage for Arthur Loughlin & Bridget Martin? Date-wise it would be a possibility and from the index it's only the bride's surname that conflicts with what you think you are looking for.

Is this Bridget's husband Arthur Loughlin born 2 March 1907? If Bridget was the same age or older she might have knocked a few years off her age to appear a bit younger.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1907/01702/1675248.pdf

There is a Bridget Hanratty born 15 June 1902 in Newry district-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1902/01904/1739128.pdf
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Re: Bridget loughin/loughlin (need hannerty)
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 05 October 17 20:33 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the tip, I didn't think I should add onto an old post but from now on I will.
I can't seem to find how to view the documents I've already purchased on groni without paying again. Anyway from what I remember both parties were in their early 30s so makes them older and the man was older than the woman which conflicts with the info I have come across (Bridget was older)

Arthur's father was called James Henry Loughlin.

To be honest I aren't 100% she was born in Ireland but they definitely lived there as that is where the children were born 


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Re: Bridget loughin/loughlin (need hannerty)
« Reply #7 on: Friday 06 October 17 11:10 BST (UK) »
You seem to be running around grasping at straws and asking for help on the chance that details of Bridget might be found. It's quite possible that her birth, marriage and death will not be online. People are searching for details here that you've already been given on other forums but you need to look at the facts.

May 1927- Arthur Loughlin (18) arrived Quebec from Belfast on "Montclare"

Nov.1948 Bridget Loughlin (41) arrived Liverpool from Montreal on "Acania" with children aged 14, 11 & 6. Going to Crumlin, country of intended future residence- Irish Free State

Sept.1958 Bridget Loughlin (born 5/6/1907) departed Liverpool for Montreal on "Sylvania" Address- The Gulf Lennymore CoAntrim.
Dec.1958  Bridget Loughlin (born 5/6/1907) arrived U.K. on "Empress of France". Last residence & intended residence- Ireland.

I see no indication that Arthur Loughlin was a farmer rather than a farm labourer. For reference, here's the location of Ballyshanaghill townland-
https://www.townlands.ie/antrim/massereene-upper/camlin/ballyshanaghill/

Brother John Loughlin's birth (1914) gives father James Henry Loughlin as labourer and residence as Gobrana which marches Ballyshanaghill-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1914/01414/1580953.pdf
https://www.townlands.ie/antrim/massereene-upper/camlin/gobrana/

Since Arthur went to Canada age 18 and single it's entirely possible that he married Bridget in Canada or the U.S.
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Re: Bridget loughin/loughlin (need hannerty)
« Reply #8 on: Friday 06 October 17 14:08 BST (UK) »
I certainly am running around in many circles and grasps at lots of straws  :)

I don’t understand why there might not be official records of her online, is this common? Please forgive me as even though I have been doing my family tree for many years I still am no expert as you can tell.

Arthur Loughlin New York to Plymouth on Marine Tiger arrival 22 sep 1948 this might be where his occupation changed to farmer. I can’t open the document as I don’t have ancestry anymore.

Thank you for your help by the way  :)