Flecken-Kiefer occupation

[Nick93]

Hello all, I have an ancestor whose occupation is listed as a Burgher and Flecken-Kiefer. I understand a burgher is a citizen of a town, but what about a Flecken-Kiefer? Kiefer is a variant of cooper, but Flecken means to stain or something, right? Some kind of barrel painter? Thanks.

P.S. I heard one person somewhere suggest that Flecken also refers to a place/town, and kiefer can mean a cooper or also a wine maker. This ancestor in question was a member of the village council. Might he have been the town's wine maker?

*edit* The place in question is a village in Baden Wurtemburg called Kirchberg an der Murr, in the late 1700's.

[davecapps]

HI
I have never heard of any thing similar. Flechter / basketmaker  Küfer / cooper
can you post the original text
Dave

[Nick93]

Hi Dave, sorry, no I don't have the original text. It's from a tree made by a distant German relative online on RootsWeb WorldConnect. The reference he cites is the Kirchberg Sterberegister which he says describes this ancestor upon his death as " 62 Jahre 2 Monate alt, Bürger und Flecken-Kiefer."

[davecapps]

Hi Nick

What´s the persons name?
Dave

[Nick93]

Hey Dave, Johann Erhard Vogel, born 20 May, 1716 in Kirchberg a.d.Murr, Marbach a.Neckar, Württemberg, and he died 27 July 1778 in Kirchberg a.d.Murr, Marbach a.Neckar, Württemberg.

[davecapps]

I´m in 2 German forums. If you like i´ll post your details and see if we can get more info.

Dave

[Nick93]

Ah, yes please. That would be extremely helpful. Thank you.

[davecapps]

I´ve found his death certificate! Having problems deciphering his occupation.
If you send me your mail address i´ll send you the document
Dave

[Nick93]

Oh wow, thank you.

nmvogel@imail.iu.edu