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Offline annel80

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Belgoeul - Bellembert marriage Pas de Calais
« on: Thursday 05 October 17 22:20 BST (UK) »
Trying to find out about my great grandparents, not sure of date. Before 1900.
Been on filae.com and found a daughter Marie Sylvia with an image but it won’t open ! Grrrrr
Jones in Lewisham, West Ham , Kent and Tonnay Charente France
Belgeul / Bellegoeul (many spellings) in St Aubin and Sainte Josse Pas de Calais and Paris France

Offline BelgianAncestry

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Re: Belgoeul - Bellembert marriage Pas de Calais
« Reply #1 on: Friday 06 October 17 12:01 BST (UK) »
What exactly are you looking for? Is your great grandfather

Abel Gaspard Landry Belgoeul
°Vaulx 9 June 1859
son of Jean-Baptiste Fortuné Belgoeul and Césarine Alexandrine Croisel
 x 30 Aug 1882 in Saint-Josse, France
Elise Alice Joseph Bellembert
°Vimy 23 May 1862
daughter of Louis Alexandre Bellembert and Elise Françoise Joachine Macquet

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Re: Belgoeul - Bellembert marriage Pas de Calais
« Reply #2 on: Friday 06 October 17 15:51 BST (UK) »
Pas de Calais Archives:
http://www.archivespasdecalais.fr/Archives-en-ligne

Is your family the one shown as in London in 1891 with Marie and Lucien as children, and in 1901 with Marie and a "M" (probably Maurice Belgaeul/Belghul on freebmd - born 1891, he sadly died in WWI as you can find here: http://www.memoiredeshommes.sga.defense.gouv.fr/fr/arkotheque/client/mdh/base_morts_pour_la_france_premiere_guerre/ )

The 1882 marriage shows that Abel was resident at Saint-Aubin, born at Vaulx, his parents were resident at Vaulx and consented to the marriage, his future wife was resident in Saint-Josse as were her parents.

It appears in the 1886 census of Saint-Josse that Marie Belgoeul, aged 3, is living with her grandmother, Elise Macquet (women appear under maiden name in these records).

However, her birth is not found there. I checked Saint-Aubin, the residence of her father at his marriage, and sure enough she's there:
Saint-Aubin - 1830-1895, page 351.

However, brother Lucien is not. http://www.geneaservice.com gave me a hint - he appears in later electoral rolls in France with his place of birth given as "Vicheux" - which doesn't seem to exist, but "Ficheux" does and there Lucien Edgar Belgoeul is registered in 1885, son of Abel Gaspard and his wife Alice-Elise Bellembert.

Marginal notes indicate that he passed away in Clichy-la-Garenne, 3rd Feb 1960.
Some information on Lucien's war service here:
http://ccsc.genealogie.free.fr/TH/fiches/Ind_00966.htm


Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: Belgoeul - Bellembert marriage Pas de Calais
« Reply #3 on: Friday 06 October 17 20:11 BST (UK) »
Belgian AncestryH e l p thank you I hadn't got the info about Elise's parents, Louis and Elise or the birthplaces of Abel and Elise. Can I ask where you found this info from ?
Jones in Lewisham, West Ham , Kent and Tonnay Charente France
Belgeul / Bellegoeul (many spellings) in St Aubin and Sainte Josse Pas de Calais and Paris France


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Re: Belgoeul - Bellembert marriage Pas de Calais
« Reply #4 on: Friday 06 October 17 20:16 BST (UK) »
Jorose, thank you, there are several bits of info that I hadn't already got. Very useful
can I ask where you found the info about the marriage ? iknew the date but can you see the document ? I'm presuming you can because you say Abels parents consented to the marriage
Jones in Lewisham, West Ham , Kent and Tonnay Charente France
Belgeul / Bellegoeul (many spellings) in St Aubin and Sainte Josse Pas de Calais and Paris France

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Re: Belgoeul - Bellembert marriage Pas de Calais
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 07 October 17 07:11 BST (UK) »
Pas de Calais Archives are online like the previous poster said:
http://www.archivespasdecalais.fr/Archives-en-ligne
The marriage record can be found there:
http://archivesenligne.pasdecalais.fr/console/ir_seriel_visu.php?SID=k8plqj4qt86h6knl2bttkvug01&id=188717563&l=1664&h=914&titre=188717563
look for the sans on pages 159 and 160.
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