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Rowles Family of Newbury
« on: Saturday 07 October 17 13:41 BST (UK) »
Hi

Can anyone tell me if there are any parish records available for Newbury for the start to the middle of the 1800's and if so where I may be able to find them?

I am searching for records of a Rowles family who according to census records came from Newbury but I can't find any information from this time.

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Lesley




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Re: Rowles Family of Newbury
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 07 October 17 13:49 BST (UK) »
Hi Lesley,

Newbury library have a copy of the parish records for St Nicolas Church Newbury and some records for other parishes near Newbury. The Berkshire Records Office (in Reading) also hold the parish records for Berkshire.

Which Rowles family are you researching?

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Chris




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Re: Rowles Family of Newbury
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 07 October 17 14:38 BST (UK) »
Hi Lesley,


Don't know if this is any help but there were these 2 families recorded in the Joseph Toomer's Census for Newbury in 1815:


Abode: Morris's Yard West Side of Market Place Newbury

Thomas Rowles aged 37
Hannah Rowles aged 35
Elizabeth Rowles aged 12
Thomas Brooks Rowles aged 7
Mary Rowles aged 4
Hannah Rowles infant



Abode: Be Yard East Side of Bartholomew Street Newbury

Joseph Rowls aged 55
Lydia Rowls aged 51
Heater Rowls aged 14
Sarah Rowls aged 11
William Nelson Rowls aged 9
Joseph Rowls aged 7


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Re: Rowles Family of Newbury
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 07 October 17 15:12 BST (UK) »
Hi Chris

I am looking for William Rowles born about 1808/1811 n Newbury.  He married Ann Ferris in 1830 in Newbury and his occupation was a dyer and cleaner.

I have found a William and Mary Ann Rowles  on the 1851 & 1861 census's living in Newbury.  He was born about 1783/1786 in Witney, Oxfordshire and his occupation is also a dyer. I was trying to check if these were William's parents.

There is also a John/John Adam Rowles born about 1819 in Newbury with wife Sarah (possibly Noakes) on the census records and also Joseph Adam Rowles born about 1820 in Newbury with wife Maria. Both John & Joseph's occupations are also dyers/cleaners.  Could these be sons of Wlliam and Mary Ann and brothers of William (1808)? 

If these are the same family I would like to find out about children of William and Mary Ann, births, marraiges etc.

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Lesley





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Re: Rowles Family of Newbury
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 11 October 17 16:39 BST (UK) »
Hi Lesley,

A little info for you:


Baptisms 1799-1812

Place: St Nicolas Church Newbury
Date: 10th January 1808
Name: William Rowles (born 18th December 1807)
Parents: William and Mary Ann Rowles

Place: St Nicolas Church Newbury
Date: 5th February 1809
Name: Mary Ann Rowles (born 19th December 1808)
Parents: William and Mary Ann Rowles


As William, Mary Ann and their family were not recorded in the 1815 Joseph Toomers census it looks like they moved out of the parish sometime after 1809 but they must have moved back to this parish by 1817 because they had the following children baptised there.

Baptisms:

Date: 29th June 1817
Name: Matilda Rowles
Parents: William and Mary Ann Rowles
Abode: Newbury
Father's Occ: Silk Dyer

Date: 4th April 1819
Name: John Adams Rowles
Parents: William and Mary Ann Rowles
Abode: Newbury
Father's Occ: Dyer

Date: 4th March 1821
Name: Joseph Adams Rowles
Parents; William and Mary Ann Rowles
Abode: Newbury
Father's Occ: Dyer

Date: 5th February 1826
Name: Thomas Benjamin Rowles
Parents: William and Mary Ann Rowles Abode: Newbury
Father's Occ: Dyer

Date: 22nd February 1829
Name: Emily Rowles
Parents: William and Mary Rowles
Abode: Newbury
Father's Occ: Dyer

Date: 24th April 1831
Name: Maria Rowles
Parents: William and Mary Ann Rowles
Abode: Newbury
Father's Occ: Dyer


I could only find 2 marriages for the children in the parish records for St Nicolas Church

Date: 19th October 1830
Marriage: By Banns
Groom: William Rowles (Bachelor of this parish)
Bride: Ann Ferris (Spinster of this parish)
Groom signed his name, Bride made her mark
Witnesses: Elizabeth Rowles and John Edward Knight


Date: 12th July 1841
Groom: Joseph Adams Rowles, aged 20and a 1/2, Bachelor, of Newbury, occ: Confectioner
Bride: Maria Hopson aged 15 and a 1/2, Spinster, of |Newbury
Groom's Father: William Rowles, Occ: Dyer
Bride's Father: Willam Hopson, Occ: Bricklayer
Bride and Groom both signed their names
Witnesses: John Adams Rowles and Esther Hopson


This looks like the baptism for Maria Hopson:

Date: 21st November 1825
Name: Maria Hopson
Parents: William and Sarah Hopson
Abode: Newbury
Father's Occ: Publican and Bricklayer

This couple also baptised this daughter:

Date: 30th May 1824
Name: Esther Hopson
Parents: William and Sarah Hopson
Abode: Newbury
Father's Occ; Bricklayer


I think that John Adams Rowles married this Esther Hopson in the same quarter and year that Maria and Joseph were married but as they were not married in the parish of St Nicolas I have no proof.


to be continued:

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Re: Rowles Family of Newbury
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 11 October 17 16:41 BST (UK) »
Familysearch has John and his family recorded in the 1861 census as follows:

Abode:Peascod Street New Windsor Berkshire
Head John A Roses aged 42 born Newbury Occ; Cleaner Employing 2 men
Wife: Sarah aged 36 born Greenham
Dau: Esther aged 18 born Newebury
Son: John B T aged 13 born Reading
Dau: Edith M aged 6 born Windsor
Son: Walter Odaver aged 5 born Windsor
Dau: Fanny G aged 0 born Windsor
Maria Noakes aged 74 born Cookham Berkshire


Looking for the birth registrations for the above children I have found these:

 
ROWLES, ESTHER        mother's maiden name HOPSON      
GRO Reference: 1842  D Quarter in NEWBURY  Volume 06  Page 197

ROWLES, JOHN  BRICE      mother's maiden name HOPSON       
GRO Reference: 1848  J Quarter in READING  Volume 06  Page 243

ROWLES, EDITH  KATE      mother's maiden name WILLIS      
GRO Reference: 1854  J Quarter in WINDSOR UNION  Volume 02C  Page 384

ROWLES, WALTER  ADAMS      mother's maiden name NOAKES     
GRO Reference: 1856  M Quarter in WINDSOR  Volume 02C  Page 387

ROWLES, GERTRUDE  FANNY      mother's maiden name WILLIS     
GRO Reference: 1860  D Quarter in WINDSOR  Volume 02C  Page 361


There was this death which could be Esther Rowles mistranscribed as Hester:

      
ROWLES, HESTER        aged 24      
GRO Reference: 1849  S Quarter in READING  Volume 06  Page 170


and this possible 2nd marriage for John Adams Rowles:

Marriages Jun 1853   
Giles    Mary Ann        Newbury    2c   355    
Moulding    Sarah         Newbury    2c   355     <<<<<<
Pocock    Thomas         Newbury    2c   355    
ROWLES    John Adams         Newbury    2c   355     <<<<<<<
 

Tracing Sarah back there is this possible marriage:

Marriages Dec 1848   
Challis    Livinia        Newbury    6   449    
CLACK    Charlotte         Newbury    6   449    
Cooper    John         Newbury    6   449    
CRUSE    Ann         Newbury    6   449   
MOULDING    John         Newbury    6   449     <<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Slaughter    George         Newbury    6   449    
WILLIS    Sarah         Newbury    6   449    <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
WRIGHT    John         Newbury    6   449   


son for this couple:

MOULDING, WILLIAM  HENRY      mother's maiden name WILLIS        
GRO Reference: 1850  M Quarter in NEWBURY  Volume 06  Page 235

Death for Sarah's husband John:

MOULDING, JOHN        Aged 24      
GRO Reference: 1850  J Quarter in NEWBURY  Volume 06  Page 152

1851 census:

Abode: St Nicolas Newbury Berkshire

Sarah Moulding, aged 25, Widow, born Greenham Berkshire
William H Moulding aged 1 born Newbury

As the 1861 census doesn't actually state what relationship Maria Noakes was to John Adams Rowles but assuming that she was Sarah's mother perhaps John registered the birth of Walter in 1856 thinking that Sarah's maiden name was Noakes and not Wiiis


It's possible that Thomas Benjamin Rowles married in 1848:

Marriages Dec 1848 

CROOK    William        Totnes    9   605   
DOLTON    Eliza         Totnes    9   605   
Fogwill    Eleanor         Totnes    9   605   
HOLMAN    James         Totnes    9   605    
LIZARD    Harriet         Totnes    9   605     <<<<<<<<<<<<<
Rowles    Thomas Benjamin         Totnes    9   605     <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<


possible birth for a daughter;
     
ROWLES, CAROLINE  LIZARD      mother's maiden name LIZARD      
GRO Reference: 1849  S Quarter in NEWBURY  Volume 06  Page 207


and it looks like Thomas emigrated to Australia as this looks like a second marriage for him:



Thomas Benjamin Rowles
Birth Date:1827
Birthplace: Newbury, Bucks, England
Age: 56
Spouse's Name: Mary Ann Dobbs
Spouse's Birth Date:1829
Spouse's Birthplace: Sondon, England
Spouse's Age; 54
Event Date: 15 Jul 1883
Event Place: St. Phillips, Collingwood, Victoria, Australia
Father's Name: William Rowles
Mother's Name:    Mary Ann Adams
Spouse's Father's Name: William Hi...
Spouse's Mother's Name: Louisa Reynolds
Marital Status: Widowed
Spouse's Marital Status: Widowed

William Rowles died in 1858 aged 75 and Mary Ann Rowles died in 1859 aged 73.

Ann Rowles died in 1877 aged 69 and William Rowles died in 1884 aged 76

Burials can be viewed here:
http://www.fnrcnewbury.org.uk/burials.asp?SortMethod=SURNAME&SortLetter=R

Kind Regards
Chris





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Re: Rowles Family of Newbury
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 14 October 17 12:27 BST (UK) »
Hi Chris

Wow, what a lot of info you have given me. Thank you very much. It looks like this is the family I was looking for.  I will go through it all and if I have any other queries maybe I can come back to you.

Kind Regards
Lesley

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Re: Rowles Family of Newbury
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 14 October 17 16:19 BST (UK) »
Hi Lesley,

You're welcome and if you do have any other queries just shout.  ;D

Kind Regards

Chris

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Re: Rowles Family of Newbury
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 15 October 17 11:43 BST (UK) »
Hi Chris

I have been gong through the info you gave me and I do have one query at the moment.  Do you recollect coming across a Sophia Rowles?

On the 1841 census for William and Mary Ann Rowles there is also 2 children mentioned.  John (Probably John Adam) aged 20, Maria aged 10 and Sophia aged 15 who I assumed was a daughter.

I think she married Henry Tomkins in 1847 and depending which census you look at she was born about 1824/1825 in Newbury.  If she wasn't baptised then there would be no record, but she could be another relative and not a daughter.

I was wondering if you had come across her.

Regards
Lesley