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Can’t find these people on census. Help please.
« on: Saturday 07 October 17 20:08 BST (UK) »

I don’t know if anyone can help but I feel like I am going around in circles. Ellen Kilshaw born Burtonwood, Lancashire 1852. I am trying to find more information about her dad who I have found through her marriage record was called John. I cannot find a birth record for Ellen or any sign of them on 1862 & 1872 censuses. Ellen married Stanley Chandler on 19 October 1878. Her residence is shown as Warrington.

I feel as if I am missing something. Any help would be appreciated. Many thanks

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Re: Can’t find these people on census. Help please.
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 07 October 17 20:25 BST (UK) »
Have you ruled out Mary Ellen Kilshaw born 1856ish with parents Thomas & Mary at Fields Farm in Burtonwood in the 1861 census as being a completely different person that just happens to have a very similar name?
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Sherry-Paddington & Marylebone,
Longhurst-Ealing & Capel, Abinger, Ewhurst & Ockley,
Chandler-Chelsea

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« Reply #2 on: Saturday 07 October 17 20:36 BST (UK) »
Just having a look at the GRO

This one is the correct spelling

KILSHAW, ELLEN        MMN TILLY      
GRO Reference: 1851  D Quarter in PRESCOT  Volume 20  Page 862

This covers the reg district

KERSHAW, ELLEN        JONES      
GRO Reference: 1853  S Quarter in WARRINGTON  Volume 08C  Page 126

Do you know who the marriage witnesses were and her father's occupation from the marriage cert.?
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Ward, Newark (Nottingham), Leicester, Scarborough
Warren, Northampton, Leicester
Moore, Leicestershire
Hunt, Leicestershire
Kirkman, Leicestershire
Hurst, Leicester, Stowmarket
Kendrick, Leicestershire
Eld, Leicestershire
Essex Edey/Eady Elsden/Elsdon

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Re: Can’t find these people on census. Help please.
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 07 October 17 20:41 BST (UK) »
Could the father's names have been switched on the marriage certificate?

Stanley Chandler was born 1855 in Presteigne Registration District; 1871 census says Kinnersley, Herefordshire.
His father's name was John!

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V55V-J1N
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)


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Re: Can’t find these people on census. Help please.
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Re: Can’t find these people on census. Help please.
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 07 October 17 20:45 BST (UK) »
The Prescot birth looks to tally with the Ellen Kilshaw shown in the 1861 census as born Rainhill, father William a Carter.
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« Reply #6 on: Saturday 07 October 17 20:48 BST (UK) »
From freebmd

Marriages Dec 1842
KILSHAW    William         Prescot    20/627    
Tilley    Mary        
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Ward, Newark (Nottingham), Leicester, Scarborough
Warren, Northampton, Leicester
Moore, Leicestershire
Hunt, Leicestershire
Kirkman, Leicestershire
Hurst, Leicester, Stowmarket
Kendrick, Leicestershire
Eld, Leicestershire
Essex Edey/Eady Elsden/Elsdon

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Re: Can’t find these people on census. Help please.
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 07 October 17 21:00 BST (UK) »
 Thank you for the replies. I don’t have the Marriage certificate at the moment because I am more interested in John. I was hoping to find him on a census so I can get more information. I have been down the wrong line with this branch before and I am hoping not to make the same mistake.

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Re: Can’t find these people on census. Help please.
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 07 October 17 21:25 BST (UK) »
Have you ruled out Mary Ellen Kilshaw born 1856ish with parents Thomas & Mary at Fields Farm in Burtonwood in the 1861 census as being a completely different person that just happens to have a very similar name?

This one seems to have married Charles Pratt at St Paul, Warrington on 30 Jan 1875 (Lan-OPC).
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)