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Offline Emsworthy

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Hi all,

I have a direct link to the Tyler line of Great Dunmow via Mary Tyler b.1818.  I have one sibling for her - Sarah Tyler b.1820.  Parents for the girls were John and Sarah Tyler, according to baptism records.  I haven't been able to find any further baptisms to a John and Sarah, nor a marriage for them. 

If daughter Mary was the eldest, I'd assume that John and Sarah were born around 1795.

Any help would be gratefully received!

Many thanks,

Emma


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I can find this family in 1841, but with Mary as 'wife', rather than Sarah.  Is there any record of Sarah passing away and John remarrying?

Star Lane, Great Dunmow

John Tyler, 50, Shoe M, Y
Mary Tyler, 50, Y
Sarah Tyler, 20, Y
Peter Tyler, 10, Y
Ann Tyler, 15, Y
Isaac Tyler, 5, Y

HO107/328/7
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Re: John & Sarah Tyler - Great Dunmow - b.c. 1795 - any help would be appreciated!
« Reply #1 on: Monday 09 October 17 23:49 BST (UK) »
I couldn't find a marriage for John, to either Mary or Sarah, in Gt Dunmow or in various surrounding parishes.

Looking at the baptisms and burials in Gt Dunmow I think that Sarah and Mary may be the same person, as there's an earlier baptism for parents John & Mary and there's no burial for a Sarah.

Assuming that it's the same John and Mary in 1861, as per 1841 at Star Lane, Mary's birth is c1788 Henham. Looking through the Henham baptisms there are few a possible matches, so no obvious leads. I couldn't find a marriage in Henham.

Ref RG09; Piece 1117; Folio 25; Page 11;


You probably have these records anyway but I'll post them just in case.

Baptisms - Gt Dunmow:

04 Aug 1816 - Thomas Tyler; John & Mary; Shoemaker; Dunmow
24 Jan 1819 - Mary Tyler; John & Sarah; Shoemaker; Dunmow
05 Mar 1820 - Sarah Tyler; John & Sarah; Shoemaker; Dunmow
25 Nov 1821 - Susan Tyler; John & Mary; Shoemaker; Dunmow
31 Aug 1823 - Robert Tyler; John & Mary; Shoemaker; Dunmow
13 Feb 1825 - Eliza Tyler; John & Mary; Shoemaker; Dunmow
31? Dec 1826 - Anne Tyler; John & Mary; Shoemaker; Dunmow
16 Nov 1828 - Peter Tyler; John & Mary; Shoemaker; Dunmow
23 May 1830 - Charles Tyler; John & Mary; Shoemaker; Dunmow
30 Sep 1832 - William Tyler; John & Mary; Shoemaker; Dunmow
30 Nov 1834 - Isaac Tyler; John & Mary; Shoemaker; Dunmow


Burials - Gt Dunmow:

13 Jul 1823 - Susan Tyler; Dunmow; 1yr? 8m
01 Mar 1826 - Robert Tyler; Dunmow; 3
04 Nov 1832 - Charles Tyler; Dunmow; 2
08 Mar 1835 - Mary Tyler?; Dunmow; 44 yrs
25 Mar 1838 - William Tyler; Dunmow; 5 yrs 6 m
04 Feb 1840 - Eliza? Tyler?; Dunmow; 2 yrs
15 Apr 1846 - Ellia? Tyler; Dunmow; 28 yrs
16 Jan 1863 - Sarah Tyler; Dunmow; 79 yrs
25 May 1866 - Sarah Tyler; Dunmow; 41 yrs
09 Dec 1866 - John Tyler; Dunmow; 79 yrs
09 Feb 1868 - Mary Tyler; Dunmow; 79 yrs


GRO deaths:

1859 Q1 Death - John Tyler; age 84 (b1775); Dunmow Union; 04a; 248
1863 Q1 Death - Sarah Tyler; age 79 (b1784); Dunmow Union; 04a; 249
1866 Q4 Death - John Tyler; age 79 (b1787); Dunmow Union; 04a; 221
1868 Q1 Death - Mary Tyler; age 79 (b1789); Dunmow Union; 04a; 218

Sarah (d1863) is likely the wife of Thomas, a labourer, going by census records.


EDIT: Corrected burial year of Mary Tyler, changed from 1867 to 1868.
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Re: John & Sarah Tyler - Great Dunmow - b.c. 1795 - any help would be appreciated!
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 10 October 17 00:27 BST (UK) »
Thank you so much for posting all this information. I had wondered if Mary/Sarah were one and the same. Guess there's no real way of knowing...hopefully something may come to light further down the line.

I wonder where they married. Such a nightmare of a name, too - I've seen it transcribed as Tyler/Tiler/Tayler so far...

Thanks again - will have a more lengthy look tomorrow.

Regards, Emma
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