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Thomas Henry Colman or Coleman b Q1 1862 Waldron, Sussex
« on: Monday 09 October 17 13:41 BST (UK) »
The above seems to have moved to Gosberton from Sussex 1881-1891 as at 1891 he was living at 49 Cemetery Rd, with his 'wife' Mary Elizabeth and 3 children, Gertrude b Q4 1881 Gosberton, Edith May  b Q1 1887 Lambeth, London? and Ethel Maud b 8 Apr 1890 Gosberton. At 1901 at Salem St, there are 3 more children all born Gosberton and at 1911 at Salem St,2 more children b Gosberton.
However Mary Elizabeth's maiden name is unknown as I'm unable to find a marriage for her, she was bc1864 in Quadring.
Both Thomas and Mary passed away in Wisbech, she in 1929 and he in 1952.
Seems odd that they had 8 children  and no marriage?
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Re: Thomas Henry Colman or Coleman b Q1 1862 Waldron, Sussex
« Reply #1 on: Monday 09 October 17 13:47 BST (UK) »
Birth registrations:

Gertrude Coleman (no mmn listed), Dec qtr 1881 Spalding
Edith M__ Colman, c1887 Lambeth (poss died as Edith Colman aged 23, Dec qtr 1910 Spalding)
Ethel Maud Colman mmn Colman, Jun qtr 1890 Spalding
Lois Margaret Colman mmn Colman, Jun qtr 1894 Spalding
Thomas Henry Colman mmn Colman, Jun qtr 1896 Spalding
Joseph Frederick Colman mmn Coleman, Sep qtr 1899 Spalding
Beatrice Emily Sarah Colman mmn Coleman, Mar qtr 1903 Spalding
Frances Miriam Colman mmn Coleman, Sep qtr 1904 Spalding
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Thomas Henry Colman or Coleman b Q1 1862 Waldron, Sussex
« Reply #2 on: Monday 09 October 17 14:02 BST (UK) »
So do you think her maiden name was the same as his?
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Re: Thomas Henry Colman or Coleman b Q1 1862 Waldron, Sussex
« Reply #3 on: Monday 09 October 17 14:05 BST (UK) »
Edith May  b Q1 1887 Lambeth, London?

COLMAN, EDITH  MAY
Mother's maiden surname: ASHLEY
GRO Reference: 1887  M Quarter in LAMBETH  Volume 01D  Page 364

You can look these up yourself.

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/menu.asp

I doubt that Gertrude was the daughter of Thomas.

Debra  :)


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Re: Thomas Henry Colman or Coleman b Q1 1862 Waldron, Sussex
« Reply #4 on: Monday 09 October 17 14:08 BST (UK) »
Yes the Lambeth birth with mmn Ashley is an odd-one-out.  Possible a key clue, possibly wrong family!  I can't easily see her elsewhere though. 
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Thomas Henry Colman or Coleman b Q1 1862 Waldron, Sussex
« Reply #5 on: Monday 09 October 17 14:51 BST (UK) »
When Edith May married she gave her father as Thomas a builder.
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Re: Thomas Henry Colman or Coleman b Q1 1862 Waldron, Sussex
« Reply #6 on: Monday 09 October 17 15:35 BST (UK) »
The only Mary Elizabeth bap in Quadring 1862-67 was LUNN, dau of Joseph and Susannah, 18 Oct 1863.  There is no obvious marriage for her in Lincs.

I see her as Elizabeth M LUNN in Fishtoft in 1881.
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Re: Thomas Henry Colman or Coleman b Q1 1862 Waldron, Sussex
« Reply #7 on: Monday 09 October 17 17:33 BST (UK) »

Seems odd that they had 8 children  and no marriage?


Have been looking but nothing found I'm afraid  ???

Is this Thomas Colman born c1863 Waldron with his father Daniel on 1871/1881 census?

1871 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VFDS-51D
1881 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27W-1Z6J


Both Thomas and Mary passed away in Wisbech, she in 1929 and he in 1952.


Looking at the free search 1939 Register this appears to be Thomas -
Did they have another child named Annie? Not seeing Annie E with them  ???

Wisbech R.D., Cambridgeshire
Thomas H   Colman      1863
Annie E Sharp (Colman) 1902 is also on this record
and 1 offically closed

1891 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:WRVQ-Y3Z
1901 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XSDH-VJK
1911 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X7YQ-GDP
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Re: Thomas Henry Colman or Coleman b Q1 1862 Waldron, Sussex
« Reply #8 on: Monday 09 October 17 18:05 BST (UK) »

Looking at the free search 1939 Register this appears to be Thomas -
Did they have another child named Annie? Not seeing Annie E with them  ???

Wisbech R.D., Cambridgeshire
Thomas H   Colman      1863
Annie E Sharp (Colman) 1902 is also on this record
and 1 offically closed

Perhaps their marital statuses are not what you seem to be assuming.  ;)

I believe this is the SHARP connection

Marriages Mar 1955 
COLEMAN    Annie E    (SHARP)    King's L.    4b   1262    
SHARP    Samuel    (COLEMAN)    King's L.    4b   1262   
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