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Re: James Stewart Gellatly born Arbroath c.1840
« Reply #9 on: Monday 09 October 17 18:26 BST (UK) »
Quote from: Gadget on Monday 09 October 17 16:22 BST (UK)
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=523008.msg3802797#msg3802797:-\

From the above...

"Many years ago my mother mentioned something about my great grandfather Gellatly being a whaler sailing from Dundee and Gellatly Street in Dundee was named after him. I do doubt the facts behind the street name though"

This may help...

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01kus/

"1801 The Advertiser published by Dr James Stewart. Gellatly Street, originally called
Stewart’s Court, was removed to make way for the new Gellatly Street. Dr Stewart was the
son of James Stewart, merchant, and was born in 1740. He died on 2nd May"

Annie
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Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

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Re: James Stewart Gellatly born Arbroath c.1840
« Reply #10 on: Monday 09 October 17 19:27 BST (UK) »
Hi Gadget, I appreciate your time and info.

I'll need to do some cross-checking research more on James Gellatly. The first mention of middle name Stewart is actually on his death certificate, by his son. Prior to that on James' son Frederick's marriage certificate is mentions James KIRK Gellatly, with KIRK being his mother's surname. So until I can find James' birth certificate I don't know if he is middle name Stewart or Kirk.

Also, 1851 census says 11yr's old born Arbroath but later census reports state born St. Andrews.

I need to dedicate more time to solve this one.
Thank you once again!
Michael

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Re: James Stewart Gellatly born Arbroath c.1840
« Reply #11 on: Monday 09 October 17 19:52 BST (UK) »
Quote from: Forfarian on Monday 09 October 17 17:47 BST (UK)
Lily's age in 1851 is indexed as 52, which means that she had James when she was about 40. This seems pretty old to be having an illegitimate child. Have you checked the original census? Is there any possibility that her age is wrong?

It is a bit old so I checked and the transcription is correct. I've attached a snip 

Gadget


PS - do report back if you get any further, Michael  :)

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Re: James Stewart Gellatly born Arbroath c.1840
« Reply #12 on: Monday 09 October 17 20:02 BST (UK) »
Also, a possible for Lily/Lilly:

Baptism in St Andrews:
3 August 1800 Lilly Kirk d of George Kirk and Mary Finn


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(sorry, Michael, I see you mentioned this on your other thread but no parents or full date given)
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Re: James Stewart Gellatly born Arbroath c.1840
« Reply #13 on: Monday 09 October 17 20:16 BST (UK) »
Something just doesn't seem right  :-\

As Forfarian said, age is a question for having an illegitimate child.

Have you found Lily/Lilly in 1841 with or without James?

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South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

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Re: James Stewart Gellatly born Arbroath c.1840
« Reply #14 on: Monday 09 October 17 20:18 BST (UK) »
Yes, I actually already have George Kirk & Marion Phinn. George was born Edinburgh and married Edinburgh also.
Something took him to St. Andrews where Lilly was born and it probably was not for golf!

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Re: James Stewart Gellatly born Arbroath c.1840
« Reply #15 on: Monday 09 October 17 20:25 BST (UK) »
41 is  not too old to have children. My 3 x great granny had her last child in her early 40s in 1833. Alternatively, Lilly could be disguising her relationship to James.

Michael - did you follow up George and Mary for possible other children? It might give other leads.

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Re: James Stewart Gellatly born Arbroath c.1840
« Reply #16 on: Monday 09 October 17 20:26 BST (UK) »
"Yes, I actually already have George Kirk & Marion Phinn. George was born Edinburgh and married Edinburgh also."

Can you post the details to help us please?

A possible...

KIRK JAMES 1841
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453/ 6/ 13
St Andrews and St Leonards
Fife

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"

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Re: James Stewart Gellatly born Arbroath c.1840
« Reply #17 on: Monday 09 October 17 20:27 BST (UK) »
Quote from: Rosinish on Monday 09 October 17 20:26 BST (UK)
Can you post the details to help us please?


Which details, Annie?

See you've added - see my earlier post
Quote from: Gadget on Monday 09 October 17 20:02 BST (UK)
Also, a possible for Lily/Lilly:

Baptism in St Andrews:
3 August 1800 Lilly Kirk d of George Kirk and Mary Finn


Gadget

(sorry, Michael, I see you mentioned this on your other thread but no parents or full date given)
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