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Re: WHITE, Patrick married HOLDWORTH, Margaret 24 June1864 St James, Dublin
« Reply #18 on: Tuesday 10 October 17 11:09 BST (UK) »
Same pattern - John Timmins parents were John (Timmins) & Mary (or May) Dempsey....
The surname of the bride and groom is not being stated, but taken as being the same as the surnames of the married couple.
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Re: WHITE, Patrick married HOLDWORTH, Margaret 24 June1864 St James, Dublin
« Reply #19 on: Tuesday 10 October 17 11:10 BST (UK) »
Ahhh..sorry
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Re: WHITE, Patrick married HOLDWORTH, Margaret 24 June1864 St James, Dublin
« Reply #20 on: Tuesday 10 October 17 11:13 BST (UK) »
That's OK hallmark - confusing :-)

Reply to dathai - re have you  a marriage for Patrick William to Sarah Aikenhead the priest says Church of Holy Name 19?
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633563#page/15/mode/1up

No I don't have that info. - could be the first wife, so then I would need to try to locate a death for Sarah White.....and possible children to the first marriage?
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Re: WHITE, Patrick married HOLDWORTH, Margaret 24 June1864 St James, Dublin
« Reply #22 on: Tuesday 10 October 17 11:44 BST (UK) »
Patrick is likely to have children from the first marriage...
He was born c.1816 so was 48 when as a widower he married Margaret Hold(s)worth aka Mackey/Mackay etc.

I have him definitely as part of my family tree, on UK Census 1891 Edensor Place, Chorlton upon Medlock, Chorlton, Lancashire.
Head - widower - age 73 - Occupation Tanner & Leather Currier. born Ireland. (widowed from Margaret nee Holdsworth/Mackey?)
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WHITE, William D (?) Son) single age 23 born 1868 (is this Patrick William?) Occ. Labourer in Print Works, born Dublin, Ireland.
REYNOLDS, William - son-in-law married 29 b. 1862 Lancashire, England Occ. Warehouseman
REYNOLDS, Mary J - daughter married 25 b. 1866 Occ. Corset maker born Dublin.
REYNOLDS, Margaret M Granddaughter age 0 b. 1891 Lancashire
KELLY, Hannah M Lodger age 35 b. 1856 Occ. Corset Maker b. Lancashire.

Do not have him arriving England, or any other UK census - yet :-)
Will start checking for the first marriage.....
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BAGGALEY, BARTHOLOMEW, BOYD, CLIFTON, GALLAGHER, GEERTZ, HARBER, HARBOUR, KIRCHNER, McDONALD, MEAD, PETER, TAYLOR, YOUNG

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Re: WHITE, Patrick married HOLDWORTH, Margaret 24 June1864 St James, Dublin
« Reply #23 on: Tuesday 10 October 17 11:48 BST (UK) »
I hadn't got that far - too busy typing my last reply.....
However that is too recent for Patrick born 1816 - I think it could possibly be the  son of he and Margaret born 1867...
I mention him on the 1891 UK census but on there he is shown as William D White - not Patrick William White.
Possible........
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BAGGALEY, BARTHOLOMEW, BOYD, CLIFTON, GALLAGHER, GEERTZ, HARBER, HARBOUR, KIRCHNER, McDONALD, MEAD, PETER, TAYLOR, YOUNG

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Re: WHITE, Patrick married HOLDWORTH, Margaret 24 June1864 St James, Dublin
« Reply #24 on: Tuesday 10 October 17 11:48 BST (UK) »
that marriage 1914 is his son most likely Catholic as he must have applied for his baptismal certificate for his marriage to Sarah Aikenhead

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Re: WHITE, Patrick married HOLDWORTH, Margaret 24 June1864 St James, Dublin
« Reply #25 on: Tuesday 10 October 17 11:55 BST (UK) »
a possible with children born Bow Lane
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Re: WHITE, Patrick married HOLDWORTH, Margaret 24 June1864 St James, Dublin
« Reply #26 on: Tuesday 10 October 17 12:02 BST (UK) »
Bridget White 22 Bow Lane age 37 buried Glasnevin 1861
http://www.glasnevintrust.ie/genealogy/results/index.xml