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The Daventry may have sailed from Cardiff
« on: Tuesday 10 October 17 10:08 BST (UK) »
Hi

On the 16th August 1891 one of my ancestors was the ships' cook and steward on board the Daventry.

He died onboard when the ship was in the Red Sea. Rather bizarrely the cause of death was recorded as sunstroke. In the Marine Register, although he was Irish and from Waterford City it states his last known place of abode was Cardiff. Yet he does not appear in the census of Wales of 1891.

What I am looking for are details about the ship - the Daventry - what type of ship it was who owned it. Where did it start the voyage and what was its final destination and the route it followed. And why wasn't he using factor 50 sunscreen.....you'd of thought a cook of all people would know the affect of heat is dangerous

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Re: The Daventry may have sailed from Cardiff
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 10 October 17 12:41 BST (UK) »
Hi,
Possible the Daventry from West Hartlepool?

http://www.crewlist.org.uk/data/vesselsalpha.php
There is a piece in the South Wales Echo dated 25th July 1891 about an engineer having his certificate suspended. It mentioned he joined the Daventry which left Hull (18th inst) on a voyage to Singapore via Cardiff. It left Cardiff on the 22nd inst.
I think the Suez canal was open by then so it probably passed thru on the way to Singapore.

Cathy
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Re: The Daventry may have sailed from Cardiff
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 10 October 17 14:13 BST (UK) »
Hi,
Possible the Daventry from West Hartlepool?

http://www.crewlist.org.uk/data/vesselsalpha.php
There is a piece in the South Wales Echo dated 25th July 1891 about an engineer having his certificate suspended. It mentioned he joined the Daventry which left Hull (18th inst) on a voyage to Singapore via Cardiff. It left Cardiff on the 22nd inst.
I think the Suez canal was open by then so it probably passed thru on the way to Singapore.

Cathy
Cathy thank you so much....the CLIP database has some really useful stuff but it is thanks to you for pointing me in the right direction. One last question and I will probably intuitively know the answer. Would he be buried at sea - was that the normal protocol in such circumstances?

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Re: The Daventry may have sailed from Cardiff
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 10 October 17 15:31 BST (UK) »
Sorry, not sure about that, sounds likely to me though.
Cathy
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Re: The Daventry may have sailed from Cardiff
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 10 October 17 16:13 BST (UK) »
Sorry, not sure about that, sounds likely to me though.
Cathy

Cathy, I am struggling with the itinerary of another ship named the Peace that sailed out of Dublin. You will not believe this but four brothers and one of their sons were sailors. Four died at sea.

Thomas you already know about. It is his brother James who was aboard the Peace and was drowned at Port Said on 30th July 1878. I can't get details about this voyage or who owned it etc. He sometimes switches name he was James John and is shown as James on some manifests and John on others. The other two died in WW1 torpedoed and I have all I need about them.

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Re: The Daventry may have sailed from Cardiff
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 10 October 17 17:09 BST (UK) »
Search Welsh Newspapers on line -

http://newspapers.library.wales

For example -
South Wales Daily News, 28 July 1891
CARDIFF SAILINGS
Cleared 27 July
Singapore, Daventry ss, B, 3500 coal
S. Wales, Somerset, Devon - Oxenham

Aberavon - Hopkin/s, Jenkins, Thomas
St. Brides/Wick - Jenkins
Llanblethian -  Price
Abergwynfi -  Han(d)ford
Pontardawe -  Lewis.

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Re: The Daventry may have sailed from Cardiff
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 10 October 17 17:21 BST (UK) »
Yes,
Sailings and shipping movements were reported in the papers, good link from hanes teulu.
The SS peace appears to have foundered around August 1879 (newspaper dated 29 August 1879)
Info on the ship is in the article. James Lumley s death gives ship number as 78864
Using link above search for Whitby steamer foundered (English publications 1879)
Cathy
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Re: The Daventry may have sailed from Cardiff
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 10 October 17 17:26 BST (UK) »
Yes,
Sailings and shipping movements were reported in the papers, good link from hanes teulu.
The SS peace appears to have foundered around August 1879 (newspaper dated 29 August 1879)
Info on the ship is in the article. James Lumley s death gives ship number as 78864

Cathy

Thanks Cathy and Hanes too. Hope you are well Hanes - long time since I heard from you. I should be able to get all of what I need with your excellent pointers. I think I can close on this one. Cheers

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Re: The Daventry may have sailed from Cardiff
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 10 October 17 21:35 BST (UK) »
Best of luck with the search
S. Wales, Somerset, Devon - Oxenham

Aberavon - Hopkin/s, Jenkins, Thomas
St. Brides/Wick - Jenkins
Llanblethian -  Price
Abergwynfi -  Han(d)ford
Pontardawe -  Lewis.