Gottfried HASLEBACKER of Switzerland

[louisa maud]

Gottfried Haslebacker married Elizabeth Caroline Ellis 1888, Westminster

Gottfried was born circa 1862 in Switzerland, father Johann Haslebacker

Gottfried  was purported to have gone back to Switzerland , I have no idea of the date but it is assumed he died in 1928 in Switzerland

Elizabeth Caroline went on to marry Neils Gregerson in 1914 Marylebone

Any help much appreciated

Louisa Maud

[HughC]

Could it be that the name was really Haselbäcker?
It sounds more probable, somehow, for Switzerland

[gc1]

Is this them with a son in the 1891 UK census

Gottfried Haslebacker   Head   M   29   Swiss
Elizabeth Haslebacker   Wife   F   21   London, England
Gottfried H Haslebacker   Son   M   1   London, England
County   Essex
Parish   Walthamstow
Ecclesiastical Parish   ST MARYS
Registration District   West Ham
Residence Note   Byron Road
Gender   Male
Age   29
Marital Status   Married
Occupation   Tailor
Relationship to Head of Household   Head
Birth Year (Estimated)   1862
Birthplace   Swiss
Page Number   30
Registration Number   RG12
Piece/Folio   1357/ 149

[gc1]

Again Possible 1901 UK census (Edit 2 more sons but no Gottfried H Haslebacker?)

Gottfried Haslebacher   Head   M   39   Switzerland
Elizabeth Haslebacher   Wife   F   31   Walthamstow, Essex
Arnold Haslebacher   Son   M   8   Walthamstow
Charles Haslebacher   Son   M   5   Walthamstow
Event Place   St James Westminster, London, Middlesex, England
County   London, Middlesex
Civil Parish   St James Westminster
Ecclesiastical Parish   St Thomas
Sub-District   St James Westminster
Registration District   Westminster
Residence Note   King Street
Gender   Male
Age   39
Occupation   TAILOR
Relationship to Head of Household   Head
Birth Year (Estimated)   1862
Birthplace   Switzerland
Schedule Type   337
Page Number   45

[gc1]

Possible Gottfried on his own in 1911 UK census

Gottfried Haslebacher
Event Place   Gt Yarmouth, , Norfolk, England
County   Norfolk
Parish   Gt Yarmouth
Sub-District   Yarmouth Northern
Registration District   Yarmouth
Gender   Male
Age   49
Marital Status (Original)   MARRIED
Occupation   TAILOR MAKER
Birth Year (Estimated)   1862
Birthplace   Switzerland
Relationship to Head of Household   Lodger
Line   3
Page   1

[louisa maud]

Yes, that is all of them

Apparently they got split up before 1911 I have no idea why

Haslebacker, the name is spelt in various ways

Louisa Maud

[HughC]

Having looked at a German dictionary of surnames, I've decided that Haselbacher is the most likely.  The Haselbach is the stream (beck) with the hazel trees along its bank.

Did they dictate the details to the census enumerator?  Could the enumerator read Gottfried's (or his own) handwriting?  The entries in the census ledgers, and particularly the transcripts made by the Mormons or those Ancestry people, are not authoritative documents!

So if you're trying to trace him in Switzerland you should at least consider the rather more probable original spelling.

[Svenja]

Hi

I also think the surname in Switzerland was Haselbacher or Haslebacher.
You need to know his place of birth or place of origin to trace him in Switzerland.

The Swiss Surnames Book doesn't mention the surname Haselbacher.

The surname Haselbach has its origins in Altstätten and Altenrhein in the Canton St. Gallen.
The surname Haslebacher has its origins in Lützelflüh and Sumiswald in the Canton Berne.

The churchbooks of all parishes of the Canton Berne are online:
http://www.query.sta.be.ch/archivplansuche.aspx?ID=37
Lützelflüh 1576-1876
Sumiswald 1555-1875

Regards
Svenja

[louisa maud]

Thank you for your help

All I know from the English census is that Gottfried originated from Switzerland, I really don't know how he got split up from his wife prior to the 1911 census but by 1914 she married  Neils Gregerson, Elizabeth Caroline, his wife, was my Gt aunt

Louisa Maud