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Re: Beattie - NSW, Australia
« Reply #18 on: Thursday 12 October 17 01:51 BST (UK) »

Nellie Eva Beattie was living at his address, as per birth cert and JMs post.

Charles and wife both died in 1925. When did Theresa move to QLD?

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Theresa moved to QLD around 1928. Its said in family history that Richard Cecil Hart and Theresa Eva Shea turned up with a 10 year old Thomas Brian at Richards family home near Kogan QLD.

Theresa was originally from Grafton, NSW, so maybe she knew these people before she went to Sydney.

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Re: Beattie - NSW, Australia
« Reply #19 on: Thursday 12 October 17 01:54 BST (UK) »
" The mandate of the Society from its outset was “to relieve the Poor, the Distressed, the Aged, the In firm”. During the years of World War I, the Board of the Society felt that a need existed for temporary care for homeless women and their children. To that end the Scarba Welfare House for Women and Children opened in September 1917 to provide care for mothers and their dependent children, as well as children aged less than two years without other accommodation."

https://www.findandconnect.gov.au/ref/nsw/objects/pdfs/living-at-scarba-may2006.pdf
Atkinson; Badier; Cameron; Grant; Howie; Jardine; Jenkins; Kerr; Lawardorn; Lee; Linton; Lonie; McConnell; Morgan; Morrison; Murphy; O'Leary; Paton; Pratt; Robb; Williams

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« Reply #20 on: Thursday 12 October 17 01:59 BST (UK) »
" The mandate of the Society from its outset was “to relieve the Poor, the Distressed, the Aged, the In firm”. During the years of World War I, the Board of the Society felt that a need existed for temporary care for homeless women and their children. To that end the Scarba Welfare House for Women and Children opened in September 1917 to provide care for mothers and their dependent children, as well as children aged less than two years without other accommodation."

https://www.findandconnect.gov.au/ref/nsw/objects/pdfs/living-at-scarba-may2006.pdf

This is interesting. Theresa's only living son said that Theresa was a widow, and that her husband has been killed in WWI. But maybe thats not true.

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« Reply #21 on: Thursday 12 October 17 02:04 BST (UK) »
I think you need to heed JM's advice and wait until June next year and ask a transcription agent to view the original certificate and transcribe it.  Cost is usually $20.  There are three accredited agents in NSW. 
http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/Pages/family-history/family-history.aspx#transcription

Let us know the details then and possibly we can help you further.  All documentation about Thomas Brian will have HART as his surname.  He served in WW2 with Irene his wife as NOK
http://www.ww2roll.gov.au/Veteran.aspx?ServiceId=A&VeteranId=121567

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Re: Beattie - NSW, Australia
« Reply #22 on: Thursday 12 October 17 02:05 BST (UK) »
Think we can discount an actual relationship between Theresa and CJ.

"Historical notes:   First appears in Sands Directory in 1884, occupied by Malcolm Campbell and known as "Scarba". Former residence of AM Loewenthal, who was an alderman of the Council in 1914-15. Property acquired by the NSW Government just prior to World War 1. Passed onto the Benevolent Society which established a children's welfare home there in 1917."

http://www.environment.nsw.gov.au/heritageapp/ViewHeritageItemDetails.aspx?ID=2620345

It could be that she used the father's surname, or maybe just a chosen surname, considering the use of Nellie as her Christian name.

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Atkinson; Badier; Cameron; Grant; Howie; Jardine; Jenkins; Kerr; Lawardorn; Lee; Linton; Lonie; McConnell; Morgan; Morrison; Murphy; O'Leary; Paton; Pratt; Robb; Williams

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« Reply #23 on: Thursday 12 October 17 02:06 BST (UK) »
Theresa was unable to give a husband's name and their date of marriage when she registered the birth.  That suggests to me an illegitimate birth.

Wait for the transcription...all else will be assumptions.

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Re: Beattie - NSW, Australia
« Reply #24 on: Thursday 12 October 17 02:18 BST (UK) »

It could be that she used the father's surname, or maybe just a chosen surname, considering the use of Nellie as her Christian name.

Jamjar

Yes you could be right.


Theresa was unable to give a husband's name and their date of marriage when she registered the birth.  That suggests to me an illegitimate birth.

Wait for the transcription...all else will be assumptions.

Cando

I am guessing its 100 years from date of birth - so end of june next year..

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Re: Beattie - NSW, Australia
« Reply #25 on: Thursday 12 October 17 02:47 BST (UK) »
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Theresa moved to QLD around 1928. Its said in family history that Richard Cecil Hart and Theresa Eva Shea turned up with a 10 year old Thomas Brian at Richards family home near Kogan QLD.


Did Richard and Teresa have any chn?

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Re: Beattie - NSW, Australia
« Reply #26 on: Thursday 12 October 17 07:18 BST (UK) »
Did Richard and Teresa have any chn?

Cando

Yes, 2 sons in QLD, 1 is dead, other still alive. He knows as much as me.