Birth & Death Certificates by PDF from GRO

[Guy Etchells]

Wondered why Marriages have been excluded?

A posting I made elsewhere in 2015 may answer your question. –

“Back in the mists of time (2002) it was deemed that the GRO undertake a modernisation project for the BMD records.
That project was divided into three sections
DoVE (Digitisation of Vital Events)
EAGLE (Electronic Access to GRO Legacy Events)
MAGPIE (MultiAccess to GRO Public Index of Events)

These were later replaced by DIP (Digitisation and Indexing Project)

DoVE proceeded a pace but unfortunately the contractor pulled out before the project was complete. The digitisation only covered births 1836-1934 & deaths 1836-1957. No marriages were digitised.

EAGLE is used to access and supply the public with printed scans of entries for the above years of births & deaths.
Any certificates outside the above dates and requests for marriages are supplied by either printed microfilm copies or computer “typed” transcripts of the entries.

The egg containing MAGPIE never hatched (perhaps it was infertile) and was discarded.

DIP is a very secretive bird that is only occasionally spotted, nobody knows of its habits.

I can report that it was seen motionless in September 2008 (experts said it was paused) but later reports said its work was partially completed in August 2010 and has since been abandoned.
The official line is
“Digitisation and indexing of civil registration records in England and Wales was partially completed by 2010. Completing the process would require significant investment and there are no current plans to resume this work. HM Passport Office will continue to monitor the scope for future opportunities to digitise all birth, death and marriage records.”

Cheers
Guy

[centrehalf]

thanks Guy

[LizzieW]

Then again when I ordered a PDF certificate when they came back on line last week, I was given the chance to complete a survey (I guess other people did too).  One of the questions related to marriage certs asking whether I'd be interested in being able to buy PDF copies of them too.  So perhaps GRO are thinking about this.

For marriages in many parts of the country you can view and download if you wish to, details of marriages.  I've downloaded dozens of Lincolnshire, Suffolk, Norfolk and West Riding of Yorkshire, now, thanks to Findmypast East Riding of Yorkshire records are also available.

[Guy Etchells]

Then again when I ordered a PDF certificate when they came back on line last week, I was given the chance to complete a survey (I guess other people did too).  One of the questions related to marriage certs asking whether I'd be interested in being able to buy PDF copies of them too.  So perhaps GRO are thinking about this.

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Well perhaps Lizzie but I would not pin too many hopes on it
On 07 September 2008 about the time the General Register Office (GRO) joined with HM Passport Office  I wrote the following -

“In 100 years the Government will have finally cobbled together the measures proposed in the January 2002 White Paper ‘Civil Registration : Delivering Vital Change’. This will include ‘through life records’ making family history research as easy as switching on a computer, or possibly recalling from the digital memory embedded in our brains.

In the not too distant future, say in ten to twenty year the old birds (Dove, Eagle & Magpie) will stagger into the air.

However some changes are in the pipeline (as previously posted elsewhere)

DoVE Digitisation of Vital Events
Will be renamed
OLDE DoVE Only Limited Deposits Emulating Digitisation of Vital Events

EAGLE Electronic Access to GRO Legacy Events
Will be renamed
BALD EAGLE Badly Accessed Limited Design Electronic Access to GRO Legacy Events

MAGPIE MultiAccess to GRO Public Index of Events
Will be renamed
LONE MAGPIE Lost Operations Negative Endurance MultiAccess to GRO Public Index of Events

On 23 Nov 2009 I added the following-


The above failed to mention the new initiative the Digitisation and Indexing Project or DIP for short.
DIP of course really stands for Definitely Impractical Proposition.


Should I be more optimistic?”
Cheers
Guy

[LizzieW]

Should I be more optimistic?”

Probably not, but I'll be optimistic on your behalf 

[Caw1]

I ordered a PDF on 18th October says it will be delivered on 24th Oct. I keep having a look at 'my orders' to see if it's in yet using the COL number given but nothing yet.
I know still got a day to go but impatient to see result!
Have most people had to wait longer that given date or have they arrived ontime or earlier?
If it doesn't arrive would you suggest giving them a call?

Thanks in advance for any answers to my queries.

Caroline

[Jomot]

I ordered one on 17th & due date was 23rd, and it arrived exactly on time.

I too was impatient & checked 'my orders' constantly 

[ReadyDale]

Have most people had to wait longer that given date or have they arrived ontime or earlier?

Mine arrived one day earlier than the date given

[StevieSteve]

Impression I got from here plus my own experience was that the first batch arrived early but that might be because of the lack of a launch fanfare

If it doesn't arrive would you suggest giving them a call?

No.

Other more proactive people may differ